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Originally posted by rkgtactical:
And still the liberals, bleeding hearts, and uneducated continue to scream "get our troops out NOW." It is rather obvious that al Qaida and the extremists have no desire to stop the violence. They will only continue long after we leave Iraq. In fact, they will more than likely follow the troops to the United States. This is what they have wanted all along is to continue to fight right here in the U.S. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if al Qaida doesn't begin to attack targets in the U.S. within four years of the end of President Bush's administration.

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Originally posted by joenoplis:
I know LAPD, Chicago PD have devices that can pin point an area where gun shots/explosions come from and can relay that information to LEO's in the area so they can respond quickly to an area; couldn’t the same concept be expanded in Baghdad so Special Reaction Forces can eliminate terrorists?

Could This Work In Iraq?

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Originally posted by rkgtactical:
And still the liberals, bleeding hearts, and uneducated continue to scream "get our troops out NOW." It is rather obvious that al Qaida and the extremists have no desire to stop the violence. They will only continue long after we leave Iraq. In fact, they will more than likely follow the troops to the United States. This is what they have wanted all along is to continue to fight right here in the U.S. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if al Qaida doesn't begin to attack targets in the U.S. within four years of the end of President Bush's administration.

rkgtictical - You have your skivvies all knotted up over al Qaida coming to attack targets in the US within four years after Bush returns to cutting brush on his Texas ranch.

Forget it!

Quoting General David Petraeus, Commander of U.S. Troops in Iraq, "you cannot kill your way out of an insurgency. You have to turn them." That means the Iraqis must have a central government of reconciliation which will require centuries of animus existing between Kurd, Shiite, Sunni tribes in Iraq, must somehow be ameliorated "to have them turn." General Petraeus is further quoted saying " Progress toward political reconciliation is "tenuous."

Bottom line: We are stuck in Iraq until the political situation is resolved, and who knows when that will come to pass, if ever. Bush gave a speech at the Pentagon on March 19, 2008 in which he said, "Iraq failure would increase likely hood of ANOTHER attack on the United States."

So quite worrying about our leaving Iraq. Look to McCain. who is fine with us staying for a hundred years, to keep us there through January 20, 2014, still waiting for the Iraqis to form a government of reconciliation, in order for us to leave the country in safe secure hands.

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Originally posted by psycho37f:
I have never heard of that technology. That would be so beneficial to the warrior on the ground to know exactly where shots originated from.

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Originally posted by joenoplis:
I know LAPD, Chicago PD have devices that can pin point an area where gun shots/explosions come from and can relay that information to LEO's in the area so they can respond quickly to an area; couldn’t the same concept be expanded in Baghdad so Special Reaction Forces can eliminate terrorists?

Could This Work In Iraq?

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Originally posted by psycho37f:
I was with the invasion force into Iraq. We should have then and we should now have more boots on the ground. The surge of troops has been working. Why can they not understand, "if it works, keep doing it?"

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Churchill first asked in English, “Where is the strategic reserve?” and then in his appallingly bad French, “Où est la masse de manoeuvre?”

General Gamelin's one-word reply, “Aucune!” (none) was an admission of strategic and operational bankruptcy.

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Originally posted by rkgtactical:

It is always painful to read such posts which are based purely upon emotional outrage and ignores relevant evidence. Of course, I'm assuming you conducted a nationwide poll in determining your comment to be accurate regarding liberals?

As usual, you provide no facts, data, information, plan or tactic that will provide a so called victory in Iraq? Please educate us all as to how this victory will be accomplished? I'm ready to be educated if you have the bill of goods? Please enlighten us all with your plan of attack and if it would be considered by the current administration?

Regarding al Quaeda, they are a minor problem within Iraq and they are universally hated by most Iraqi's. More so by the Shiia unless you happen to be John McCain. While they have created mischief, caused some coalition deaths and Iraqi deaths, most attacks are Iraqi upon Iraqi, Iraqi upon American and coalition troops. At last count, the government claims there are close to 300 different and diparate groups within Iraq all looking to be the boss. The Iraqi's, whether Sunni, Shiia, Kurd will kill and eliminate al Quaeda and do not want them in Iraq for any reason. As far as any of them reaching the shores of America, will they arrive by plane, boat, balloon, submarine? Or will they, or are they just moseying across our borders due to our lack of action in those border areas? I mean really, one has to question the so called imminent danger posed by al Quaeda in the US considering this administration has fought tooth and nail NOT to secure our borders! Is this administration lying? It has to be one or the other? I have to assume considering the lack of action in securing our borders, there is no imminent threat from terrorists? Christ, in WW 2, we had troops and Civil Defense members walking the beat on our shores! We had the country pretty much locked down. We imprisoned certain members of our society during WW 2 because they were the wrong color or nationality!

No, we have been fed a diet of fear and your reaction as exhibited by your post tells us all, the fear factor has worked on you simply because you refuse to examine relevant evidence and you accept a bankrupt ideological fantasy. But I await your response and presentation on how we achieve 'victory' in Iraq.

S/F Gordon
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And still the liberals, bleeding hearts, and uneducated continue to scream "get our troops out NOW." It is rather obvious that al Qaida and the extremists have no desire to stop the violence. They will only continue long after we leave Iraq. In fact, they will more than likely follow the troops to the United States. This is what they have wanted all along is to continue to fight right here in the U.S. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if al Qaida doesn't begin to attack targets in the U.S. within four years of the end of President Bush's administration.

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Originally posted by upstick:
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-hah, who ever heard of U.S. VOLUNTEER (s) in our new
millinium? Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-hah !

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Originally posted by uh34d:

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Originally posted by rkgtactical:

It is always painful to read such posts which are based purely upon emotional outrage and ignores relevant evidence. Of course, I'm assuming you conducted a nationwide poll in determining your comment to be accurate regarding liberals?

As usual, you provide no facts, data, information, plan or tactic that will provide a so called victory in Iraq? Please educate us all as to how this victory will be accomplished? I'm ready to be educated if you have the bill of goods? Please enlighten us all with your plan of attack and if it would be considered by the current administration?

Regarding al Quaeda, they are a minor problem within Iraq and they are universally hated by most Iraqi's. More so by the Shiia unless you happen to be John McCain. While they have created mischief, caused some coalition deaths and Iraqi deaths, most attacks are Iraqi upon Iraqi, Iraqi upon American and coalition troops. At last count, the government claims there are close to 300 different and diparate groups within Iraq all looking to be the boss. The Iraqi's, whether Sunni, Shiia, Kurd will kill and eliminate al Quaeda and do not want them in Iraq for any reason. As far as any of them reaching the shores of America, will they arrive by plane, boat, balloon, submarine? Or will they, or are they just moseying across our borders due to our lack of action in those border areas? I mean really, one has to question the so called imminent danger posed by al Quaeda in the US considering this administration has fought tooth and nail NOT to secure our borders! Is this administration lying? It has to be one or the other? I have to assume considering the lack of action in securing our borders, there is no imminent threat from terrorists? Christ, in WW 2, we had troops and Civil Defense members walking the beat on our shores! We had the country pretty much locked down. We imprisoned certain members of our society during WW 2 because they were the wrong color or nationality!

No, we have been fed a diet of fear and your reaction as exhibited by your post tells us all, the fear factor has worked on you simply because you refuse to examine relevant evidence and you accept a bankrupt ideological fantasy. But I await your response and presentation on how we achieve 'victory' in Iraq.

S/F Gordon
_______________________________________________
And still the liberals, bleeding hearts, and uneducated continue to scream "get our troops out NOW." It is rather obvious that al Qaida and the extremists have no desire to stop the violence. They will only continue long after we leave Iraq. In fact, they will more than likely follow the troops to the United States. This is what they have wanted all along is to continue to fight right here in the U.S. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if al Qaida doesn't begin to attack targets in the U.S. within four years of the end of President Bush's administration.

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Originally posted by Militarymanjb:

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Originally posted by upstick:
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-hah, who ever heard of U.S. VOLUNTEER (s) in our new
millinium? Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-hah !

Last I've heard that recruitment is up in all branches