RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,164090,00.html Good information.. mostly old, but with a few new and interesting details..

The Klan, Neo-Nazi and al-Qaida have a lot in common. Not only are they a bunch of punks and cowards, they realize the only way to perpetuate their archaic mentality is to brainwash young men too naive to know the difference. Just once I'd like to see a high ranking terrorist martyr himself instead of surrendering.

The only answer is to track down the recruiters and trainers and eliminate them!

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Originally posted by EAG154:
The only answer is to track down the recruiters and trainers and eliminate them!

It seems odd that so many of these terrorists are from Saudi Arabia, supposedly a country "friendly" to the USA. Maybe we need to ask our "friends" to either handle the problem or we will. Killing the recruiters and trainers is the key. These goofballs need to learn the hard lesson that screwing with the USA isn't a good idea. Kill a few and blow up their training camps. The Saudi's need to be given fair warning that they are in a tight spot.

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Originally posted by EAG154:
The only answer is to track down the recruiters and trainers and eliminate them!

Killing the recruiters and blowing up camps is a good solution but it is only temparary one. Like the article said, alot of this recruits come from impoverished neighberhoods and families. Fixing that problem should be the final goal.

But the more dangerous are the planners and strategists - and virtually all of them are highly educated people. Consider bin Laden and al Zawahiri, or Khalid Sheikh Muhammad.

Most of the people who have thrown down against us are also educated, middle-class people. A lot of the suicide bombers are people who have been driven to despair by their social or economic conditions, but suicide bombers are only a small part of our problem; they're only mules. Don't think terrorists are all poor, ignorant people.

A majority of them are educated enough to understand fully what they are getting themselves into, and don't need a lot of prodding. They aren't coming from some dusty madrassa somewhere.

Sorry; EAG154 P.O.T.U.S. Candidate Obama doesn't agree with you (but, I do).

"When I am President, I will end this war in Iraq. I will bring our troops home within sixteen months. I'll finish the fight against al Qaeda in Afghanistan. And I will lead the world against the common threats of the 21st century - nuclear weapons and terrorism; climate change and poverty; genocide and disease." Senator Obama

Look at it this way; Iraq's Border Security WILL STOP al-Qaida and affiliates from leaving Afghanistan and going to Iraq -- When President Obama goes after the terrorists in Afghanistan. Or will it?

Anyhow, with Osama Bin Laden talking about making Baghdad the Capital of the Islamic Caliphate of the World; President Obama can look forward to "negotiations" in Iraq!

He does want to "negotiate" with our enemies and we ought not leave out Osama Bin Laden.

From A Proud Vietnam Veteran

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Originally posted by EAG154:
The only answer is to track down the recruiters and trainers and eliminate them!

The suicide bombers who have killed 10,000 people in Iraq, including hundreds 'THOUSANDS' of American troops, usually are alienated young men from large families who are desperate to stand out from the crowd and make their mark, according to a U.S. military study., THESE PEOPLE NEED TO GET THEIR FACTS STRAIGHT. REX

BIN LAUDEN was the only child of his fathers fifth wife. His father divorced one wife so he could marry this young chick. MUSLIMS can only have four wives. Bin Lauden gets his money from OIL that is sold to the U.S.A., He has been barred from SAUDI ARABIA. Just Info.. REX

No suicide hotline out their ?

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RB47E

ahh there you are i was getting worried about you... glad you are ok.... just havent seen you around in while now...

Or, were the seatbelts too tight, or something ?

[quote]Sorry; EAG154 P.O.T.U.S. Candidate Obama doesn't agree with you (but, I do).

"When I am President, I will end this war in Iraq. I will bring our troops home within sixteen months. I'll finish the fight against al Qaeda in Afghanistan. And I will lead the world against the common threats of the 21st century - nuclear weapons and terrorism; climate change and poverty; genocide and disease." Senator Obama

Look at it this way; Iraq's Border Security WILL STOP al-Qaida and affiliates from leaving Afghanistan and going to Iraq -- When President Obama goes after the terrorists in Afghanistan. Or will it?

Anyhow, with Osama Bin Laden talking about making Baghdad the Capital of the Islamic Caliphate of the World; President Obama can look forward to "negotiations" in Iraq!

He does want to "negotiate" with our enemies and we ought not leave out Osama Bin Laden.

From A Proud Vietnam Veteran


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Originally posted by EAG154:
The only answer is to track down the recruiters and trainers and eliminate them![/quote

HA HA Wes! Obama the candidate makes me want to scratch somewhere

Oopps! Wrong planet. I thought the discussion was about young men who for no right reason sought their own introduction to Hell. Unless you preach Jihad. In that case these brave,though misguided souls,are just attempting to get to promised land of Islam. Islam is the merchant of Satan and these poor souls will recieve their just recompense.
Love our freedom?
Stop Jihad
Vote McCain!

Although killing the leaders and trainers of these guys is fun and healthy form of expression. They will just get new nuts to lead them. These Jihad groups are gonna be around forever we will not be able to destroy them. We may be able to strip them of most their combat power, but that is about it.

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Originally posted by TeamAmerica:
Although killing the leaders and trainers of these guys is fun and healthy form of expression. They will just get new nuts to lead them. These Jihad groups are gonna be around forever we will not be able to destroy them. We may be able to strip them of most their combat power, but that is about it.

Jihadists are guerrilla fighters. You usually don't encounter guerrillas unless you invade a country.

"According to the U.S. military, records seized from al-Qaida show that 40 percent come from North African countries such as Libya and Algeria, and 41 percent from Saudi Arabia."

To address the hard fact's of poverty in the other countries and thier place in this war, one simple word. . .Corruption! These people will never be more than they are right now. They are in a system in wich the only education they recieve is the Koran. If you were taught every day that this is the will of god and it's your duty to kill the Infidels, then your going to do what you have been taught.

If we are to execute a war plan that will allow us to win, we need to KILL the Whabbi's and that is about 1% of the Islam faith.(Osama and his sh*t heads are all whabbi's) Most of which live within the borders of Suadi Arabia.
Just an obsevation.

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Originally posted by EAG154:
The only answer is to track down the recruiters and trainers and eliminate them!

That will do nothing. Another recruiter will just step in.

As long as there is the current socio-econimic strains in these locations, there will be cannon fodder to be recruited.

The nuts and bolts of how this works is important. The issue is motive. If you can not give someone something to live for, you can always give them something to die for. How many millions did it take for some genious to figure this one out?

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Originally posted by ArtMarsh:

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Originally posted by EAG154:
The only answer is to track down the recruiters and trainers and eliminate them!

That will do nothing. Another recruiter will just step in.

As long as there is the current socio-econimic strains in these locations, there will be cannon fodder to be recruited.

One thing currently being tried here is an attempt to sort of immunize young folk from the influence of these snake-oil salesmen from Hell. It's in its infancy, but promising. We need to start exporting more than Coke and Levi's to the ME.