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More proof that when the President says he listens to the high-ranking officers in the field, he means the ones who agree with him. Maybe Fallon and Shinseki and all the other dissenting voices can form a club.

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Maybe him butting heads with Washington is why he's always in a bad mood when he visits Iraq.
 
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More proof that when the President says he listens to the high-ranking officers in the field, he means the ones who agree with him. Maybe Fallon and Shineki and all the other dissenting voices can form a club.

Yeah, it seems that way, huh?
 
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With eight months left it would take the Iranians attacking Iraq, or the US fleet, for GWB to do what the neocons and hawks have been howling about.

Or maybe it would take one more application of the 'Animal House' principle.
 
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Wonder if Adm. Fallon would come out of retirement to work for a President like McCain or Obama? Wink
 
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Not to poke fun at the Navy, but non of the Army Commanders had an issue. Abizaid was a good commander, but what can you expect from a paratrooper. I served under him in the 82nd.
 
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I am not sure if you had seen the article from this month's Esquire magazine, but it makes interesting reading if you would like some background about why he may have taken this step. http://www.esquire.com/features/fox-fallon Cool
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What America needs, Fallon says, is a "combination of strength and willingness to engage."

Those are fighting words to your average neocon--not to mention your average supporter of Israel, a good many of whom in Washington seem never to have served a minute in uniform. But utter those words for print and you can easily find yourself defending your indifference to "nuclear holocaust."

How does Fallon get away with so brazenly challenging his commander in chief?

The answer is that he might not get away with it for much longer. President Bush is not accustomed to a subordinate who speaks his mind as freely as Fallon does, and the president may have had enough.

Just as Fallon took over Centcom last spring, the White House was putting itself on a war footing with Iran. Almost instantly, Fallon began to calmly push back against what he saw as an ill-advised action. Over the course of 2007, Fallon's statements in the press grew increasingly dismissive of the possibility of war, creating serious friction with the White House.
 
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I am not sure if you had seen the article from this month's Esquire magazine, but it makes interesting reading if you would like some background about why he may have taken this step. http://www.esquire.com/features/fox-fallon Cool
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What America needs, Fallon says, is a "combination of strength and willingness to engage."

Those are fighting words to your average neocon--not to mention your average supporter of Israel, a good many of whom in Washington seem never to have served a minute in uniform. But utter those words for print and you can easily find yourself defending your indifference to "nuclear holocaust."

How does Fallon get away with so brazenly challenging his commander in chief?

The answer is that he might not get away with it for much longer. President Bush is not accustomed to a subordinate who speaks his mind as freely as Fallon does, and the president may have had enough.

Just as Fallon took over Centcom last spring, the White House was putting itself on a war footing with Iran. Almost instantly, Fallon began to calmly push back against what he saw as an ill-advised action. Over the course of 2007, Fallon's statements in the press grew increasingly dismissive of the possibility of war, creating serious friction with the White House.


I don't think I'll be reading anything out of Esquire. The article exerpt seems more anti-Bush, than anything else.
 
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336849,00.html

quoted from different article:
"Fallon claimed ongoing misperceptions about differences between his ideas and U.S. policy are making it too difficult for him to operate, Gates said, agreeing. He added that the differences are not extreme, but the misperception had become too great."
 
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Or it could be that after 41 years in the military he thought it was time to retire?? Sorry I shouldnt point out an obvious reason for the announcement. You conspiracy theorist please continue.......
 
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Lt. General Martin Dempsey will take his job on an interim basis, but he just got tabbed for his fourth star and has already been tagged for the US Army Europe job last month. Anyone have any scoop on Fox Fallon's replacement? Cool
 
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Or it could be that after 41 years in the military he thought it was time to retire?? Sorry I shouldnt point out an obvious reason for the announcement. You conspiracy theorist please continue.......


Please, Nick ... that is not the kind of decision that anybody makes half-way though a tour, and you know it. Cool
 
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Maybe they'll yank Mckiernan out of his soon to be NATO role and give it to him. But personally I think they'll be looking for another Navy man.
 
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More proof that when the President says he listens to the high-ranking officers in the field, he means the ones who agree with him. Maybe Fallon and Shineki and all the other dissenting voices can form a club.


Adolf Hitler lost the whole ball-game because he overrode his military commanders. Frown Frown
 
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U.S. Ambassador Iraq Ryan Crocker plans to leave Baggdad as early as January, leaving the most crticial U.S. diplomatic post not long after the the top military commander, General Petraeus, is expected to rotate out of Iraq. Consequently, it makes sense that Admiral Fallon retire giving President Bush the opportunity to pick a trifecta to fill all three vacancies. Big Grin
 
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just did a brief on centcom today, guess im gonna have to change it now.
 
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"Recent press reports suggesting a disconnect between my views and the president's policy objectives have become a distraction at a critical time and hamper efforts in the Centcom region. And although I don't believe there have ever been any differences about the objectives of our policy in the Central Command area of responsibility, the simple perception that there is makes it difficult for me to effectively serve America's interests there," Fallon said.

"I have therefore concluded that it would be best to step aside and allow the secretary and our military leaders to move beyond this distraction and focus on the achievement of our strategic objectives in the region," he continued.
 
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I just spoke to a friend, an army O6, at CENTCOM – he said there are a lot of people at CENTCOM just shaking their heads. He said Fallon is a tough guy to the staff really liked that fact the he would butt heads with people on both sides of an issue. He said Fallon thought that we could not take on another land fight anywhere in the world.

Let’s all work for, look for, hope for and pray for an HONORABLE VICTORY and a SAFE RETURN home for our MAGNIFICENT GIs, at the earliest possible date, to a beautiful green-and-blue living planet for our grandchildren and great-grandchildren!


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I am not sure if you had seen the article from this month's Esquire magazine, but it makes interesting reading if you would like some background about why he may have taken this step. http://www.esquire.com/features/fox-fallon Cool
Thanks for link. A great article. Everyoneone needs to read it. We can always count on the oldmole to do the extra research.


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Or it could be that after 41 years in the military he thought it was time to retire?? Sorry I shouldnt point out an obvious reason for the announcement. You conspiracy theorist please continue.......


Most people at that level do NOT retire in the middle of a command tour unless asked.
 
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