RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,163631,00.html

What if it's $1.7 trillion? That's over $14,000 per U.S. family. I don't think I'm getting my money's worth.

We've got 130,000 troops there, but our President has to sneak in and out of Iraq a few hours at a time. The president of Iran can announce his visit days in advance and arrive with a motorcade and rolled out red carpet. He also gets first class treatment from the Iraqi prime minister. Iran can now declare mission accomplished.

yea because the dictator of iran is apart of the insurgency... his guys are the ones training the terrorist and arming them....

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Originally posted by outlaws93:
yea because the dictator of iran is apart of the insurgency... his guys are the ones training the terrorist and arming them....

You said the president of Iraq was apart of the insurgency? You do realize that that means he has nothing to do with the insurgency right? Now you may have meant he is "a part" of the insurgency...

But you may be wrong, though I doubt it... Some people thought Saddam was part of the insurgency... Rather he feared them, due to them being crazed and what not and a threat to his power...

What we need to do is invade Pakistan, Iran and Saudi so that we are spending a cool 36 billion a month I mean after all, no price is too high when it comes to the war on terror, even my own country

I was being sarcastic... Our country is worth more than these self destructive tendencies.

sure he is he is their leader.... he is the leader of the quads forces and they are in iraq they are the backbone of the insurgency...

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Originally posted by Holynotsomuch:
What we need to do is invade Pakistan, Iran and Saudi so that we are spending a cool 36 billion a month I mean after all, no price is too high when it comes to the war on terror, even my own country

I was being sarcastic... Our country is worth more than these self destructive tendencies.

hehehe wooo there buckroo.... getting a little ahead of yourself arnt you??

It's only money, right?


We'll just print more....


Even in adjusted dollars, this dance in the sand has already cost more than WWII.

So what do we have to show for our investment?

1 bad guy hanged. (former flavor of the month Saddam)

'They' are on the run.

Osama bin Laden, uh , well, who cares, right?
(After all, he's just a symbol)

Lots of blood and no-bid contracts.

If this were a business, the CEO and entire Board of Directors would have been handed their pink slips 4 years ago.

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Osama bin Laden, uh , well, who cares, right?
(After all, he's just a symbol)

no more like he is soooo deep inside of a cave he hasnt seen light of day for years now.....

Guess folks forgot that it cost lots of money for all the upgrades in technology and equipment as well as the development and implementation of new equipment and weapons...and of course with greater and newer technology and equipment comes greater and higher cost of maintenance and supply...

Funny how folks first yell and scream that we don't have it...then yell and scream about how much it costs after we get it...

First the author said the war in Iraq and meant the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, the military presence in the Gulf, etc. Then, figure the warring has become secondary to rebuilding the countries. Both were basketcases before the first bomb was dropped. One writer said we destroyed their superstructural, no so. It was in horrible condition before March 2003. Not good enough. You want more for your money try explaining the resources that it takes to tame the boil on the world's butt, Iran. This takes in Lebanon,Israel and every nation on the waters edge.

The resources cost in the Gulf region is great. It's taking about the equivilant of the money spent on WWII. Without the expenditure, the results would be just as dynamic. So, we can join Ahmadinejad in his race to superpower status in the world and let him feed on those that has less or try to keep the status quo.

Its only money, why worry? We can print all we need and borrow the rest from our mother china. While we are at it maybe we can buy some new F15 replacements from France or Russia or some of chinas new advanced stealth models. Or, we could dig some fighters out of the acft bone yard in arizona and fix em up so we will have some planes for air cover when we invade pakistan, saudi, syria and iran. Or we could use surplus UH1's with miniguns on em.

$12B?! A regular blue-light special! A few months ago folks thought it was going to be $15B a month. Hey, that's a 20% savings! But why the K-Mart model? We could have gone with Wal-Mart. They would have subcontracted all the weapons, uniforms, food, you-name-it to China. Wal-Mart could have kept the costs down to maybe $8B a month. And I think I found the very Bush appointee who could pull this off....

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Originally posted by AFRet91:
Its only money, why worry? We can print all we need and borrow the rest from our mother china. While we are at it maybe we can buy some new F15 replacements from France or Russia or some of chinas new advanced stealth models. Or, we could dig some fighters out of the acft bone yard in arizona and fix em up so we will have some planes for air cover when we invade pakistan, saudi, syria and iran. Or we could use surplus UH1's with miniguns on em.

besides, we arent paying for it anyway, our kid's kid's kid's and beyond are!!

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Originally posted by Holynotsomuch:

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Originally posted by outlaws93:
yea because the dictator of iran is apart of the insurgency... his guys are the ones training the terrorist and arming them....

You said the president of Iraq was apart of the insurgency? You do realize that that means he has nothing to do with the insurgency right? Now you may have meant he is "a part" of the insurgency...

But you may be wrong, though I doubt it... Some people thought Saddam was part of the insurgency... Rather he feared them, due to them being crazed and what not and a threat to his power...

I beleve we have over looked the one man that is part of the insurgency Al-Sader.

Sounds like they really have it hyped up to sell a lot of books. I'd be far more impressed with facts about the amount of money wasted/stolen by contractors and not-so-honest DoD acquisition personnel. That amount would probably be half of the expenditures for the operation.

The Soviet Union collapsed after 10 years in Afghanistan...50,000 casulties and billions of Rubles spent. Here is the insurgent / terrorist strategy : 1) Start a Muslim-Christian war 2) Bleed the American Satan to death economically. They aren't fghting to get us out of the region , they're fighting to keep us over there.

What is Iraq doing with the money they are getting for the sale of their oil? Are they repaying the USA for the money we are spending on their behalf? Are they using the oil money for rebuilding Iraq? No. Is the money going into their secret bank accounts spread throughout different countries? Yes. That money and oil should be coming to the USA as repayment.

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Originally posted by outlaws93:

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Osama bin Laden, uh , well, who cares, right?
(After all, he's just a symbol)

no more like he is soooo deep inside of a cave he hasnt seen light of day for years now.....

The man is probably dead. He's had kidney failure and was on dialysis. You don't live for many years like that.

just wondering how many school books and pencils and erasers you cam buy with 12 nBillion dollars...... how many raises we can give teachers so we can learn from ourt passed mistakes.....

12 billion dollars could feed a LOT of people starving right HERE in the USA...

wondering how many houses could be saved by injecting 12 billion into the home equity solution...

point is... we are spending money like mad out there and in Here we are all dying. wondering if 12B will be enough to get mental health for the people spanding it a mont over there?

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Originally posted by danedad:
The Soviet Union collapsed after 10 years in Afghanistan...50,000 casulties and billions of Rubles spent. Here is the insurgent / terrorist strategy : 1) Start a Muslim-Christian war 2) Bleed the American Satan to death economically. They aren't fghting to get us out of the region , they're fighting to keep us over there.

ding ding ding, we have a winner!!

As long as the US is in Iraq, so shall the insurgents be. And since the reproduce like rabbits, there will never be a shortage of radical wackos to strap on a bomb vest and die at 15 for their warped religious aims.

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What is Iraq doing with the money they are getting for the sale of their oil? Are they repaying the USA for the money we are spending on their behalf? Are they using the oil money for rebuilding Iraq? No. Is the money going into their secret bank accounts spread throughout different countries? Yes. That money and oil should be coming to the USA as repayment.

I think Iraq has made it quite clear that they have no intention of giving the USA any money ever. And I was hoping to make a fortune in Iraq as a florist selling flowers for Iraqis to throw at American's feet. Seems that business went under back in 2003