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RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,163556,00.html
It's ridiculous that the report is classified - what's the purpose of having an inquiry? If the inquiry is finished, there should be some kind of decision as to whether or not there should be charges filed - otherwise the inquiry is NOT finished, or is merely a SHAM. |
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No not a sham, they want to make sure all the I's are dotted and T's are crossed. When dealing with something like this, you go slow and make sure everything is as it should be and no quick decisions are made. This is an inquiry kind of like a grand jury |
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There where times in IRAQ during our convoy missions that you had no choise but to shoot, inocent people got killed, but thats war there is nothing you can do.
It well always be our word aginst theres we are at war with them and thanks to our media it well always be lop-sided. |
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The FACTS must be made public for the good of the service.
The record of the Bush administration in lying and witholding information has destroyed the credibility of the military. The only way to regain credibility is to be forthright. It is not fair to the accused nor the public to withold facts.  |
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If you take your life at once aside Then remove yourself from the cast You will find the ship of fools steams on- regardless...... Leaving you free to sail on past. -"Shaneo" 1998 West Australia |
Complete=Finished ? The general's attorneys will review the report and send it to Helland for final action, Gibson said. No timetable for a decision has been released. Gibson said he didn't know whether any part of the report eventually would be made public. |
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What part of classified don't you understand? Those facts that are unclassified or can be declassified may be released. But if they recommend a Courts Martial, releasing any of the information prior to it would be Prejudicial. The rules of testimony in a Court of Inquiry are those of gathering information, and in many cases do not rise to the level to be admissible in a Courts Martial. Given your background, one would think you would know that. |
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We have our rules of engagement but these rules don't apply to our enemies I find it hard to believe that it was turkey shoot on a bunch of civilans on a ten mile stretch of road, I don't believe in just out right killing a person unless you know infact he is the enemy but there are so many cases of these people attacking our troops and then going back into their houses and watching (MOHAMADA, MOHAMADA) on their tv and acting as if they have no clue as to what's going on and then we find a stash of weopons in they're home's and they have another weopon that's not so deadly but effective, they'll just say it's murder so then our troops will go on trial. It's wrong!!!! Semper Fi
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Seems to me that you are the only one here thats in a hurry to judge these men, everyone else is saying " slow down, let the system work as it is intended too" |
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No its not. Anyone with any common sense that spent at least two weeks in the Military would know that when they classified this report all they were doing is admitting guilt and covering up that they f#cked up. |
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In IRAQ one screw up was coverd by Ajazera TV sometimes they would stage an attack aginst our convoys showing only us shooting not the people who was shooting at us to make us look like the bad guys to the Islomic world.
I don't know if guys screwed up or not but at that time and place if they thought there lives was in danger then hell yes I would fierd too. |
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When did you serve in the Corps?  |
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Finally someone else on here with some common sense. Where the heck have you been hiding? Lately it seems that most posts on here are are anti-war or anti-military. It is a pleasure to read a post that tells it like it is. Thank you for your service. |
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They may have been so some years back but not now. There are many reasons for this being classified at this point. Eventually it will more than likely become de-classified and will be listed with FOIA. Under those circumstances, if there were any discrepancies in any of the reports it would be found out and open for reinvestigation. |
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Some seem to be sitting with their feet waveing back and forth waiting with great anticipation for any flimsy excuse to bash the militay
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Sorry to be hideing I stayed off here for awhile due to the Dumb A$$es that dident know what the hell they where talking about or the ones that where on here just to pick a fight with a service member. You know the ones they say that one thing that only a Obama or a Clinton would say. |
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I've got a pretty good handle on "Classified". I spent more than a few weeks in the service! I also understand reporting certain facts in such a way that the Marines look guilty while still saying that the "case is classsified, so we don't have to PROVE anything in print". Somewhere between 5 and 19 "civilians" killed, that's a pretty big spread! I think "civilians" could very easily be called "insurgents" depending on who is telling the story. The case wasn't so "classified" that the media had enough information to bad talk the Marines!
A drug dealing gang-banger in east LA can be called a "child" when it suits the press and polititians! |
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I'm just exspressing my opinion on this matter I'm not passing judgement I was just saying that I believe there is more to the story than our troops going out and killing a bunch of civilians, I believe our troops were attacked and they fired back, if you nitice it seems like more and more members of our armed forces are being brought up on charges of somekind. I believe our enemies are using ourjustice system to they're advantage even if we are right they'll try to make it look wrong Semper Fi Jarhead7377
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It is absolutely and completerly shameful that those who would protect us must be exposed to a cruel punishment if they are acting to protect themselves, thiir mates and the citizens of the USA. |
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Some of you newbies need to wise up and understand how the military works. Every branch of every service to include SF, SEALS, Rangers, Marines, AF CCT, etc, etc, have screwed up. Remember the convoy that took the wrong turn at the beginning of the war? Remember some of the bigger screw ups in WWII? Any screw ups in Vietnam? It just so happens that sometimes for the good of the services things are marked classified when they really aren't. What is so dang gum hard to understand about that?
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I was the security advisor to the court and my team processed over 5,000 documents that were classified secret for the COI. The majority of the testimony revolved around secret CONOPS, so the court members' findings, conclusions, and recommendations are still classified until declassified by the OCA. I sat through almost all of the testimony, and there is more to the story as suggested in a previous post.
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