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Posts: 410 | Registered: Mon 09 May 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Good for the 50,000 who found a place to stay. Not so good for the 150,000 who didn't. Inexcusable. How about some "zero tolerance" on this one?
 
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I just now received an e mail from a friend.... On 29 Jan 08 on the news, stated the Army had requested the VA NOT to help soldiers at Ft Drum, N.Y. to file for disability? Anyone else hear of such a thing? Any truth to this????
 
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I just now received an e mail from a friend.... On 29 Jan 08 on the news, stated the Army had requested the VA NOT to help soldiers at Ft Drum, N.Y. to file for disability? Anyone else hear of such a thing? Any truth to this????


True, there is more detail , the NPR reported that the more helpful employees of the VA were to be told to NOT be so forthcoming in helping veterans navigate the confusing and complex benefits regulations.

It is a sad state of affairs, we must fight against this injustice and help our loved ones who fought for us...
 
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Only 150,000!!!?? One is too many!!! Thank you President Bush for your caring and solicitous interest in the service members who you have put in harms way to further your political aims and ambitions.!!! We shall remember you as these individuals struggle to keep their collective heads above the proverbial waters of poverty and despair.
 
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I just now received an e mail from a friend.... On 29 Jan 08 on the news, stated the Army had requested the VA NOT to help soldiers at Ft Drum, N.Y. to file for disability? Anyone else hear of such a thing? Any truth to this????

If this is in fact true, it's sadder than I was thinking. Seems no body on here cares as I don't see any post on it except the 2 of us. Very pathetic that no one else even questions it.

True, there is more detail , the NPR reported that the more helpful employees of the VA were to be told to NOT be so forthcoming in helping veterans navigate the confusing and complex benefits regulations.

It is a sad state of affairs, we must fight against this injustice and help our loved ones who fought for us...
 
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Only 150,000!!!?? One is too many!!! Thank you President Bush for your caring and solicitous interest in the service members who you have put in harms way to further your political aims and ambitions.!!! We shall remember you as these individuals struggle to keep their collective heads above the proverbial waters of poverty and despair.


Yes it's all President Bush's fault. Roll Eyes He has done nothing to help homeless vets. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes It appears to me that someone did not bother to read the article. Here are a few exerpts...

"About 45 percent of participants in the VA's homeless programs have a diagnosable mental illness and more than three out of four have a substance abuse problem, while 35 percent have both, Dougherty said."

In no way can anyone seriously blame the president or rhe current economy for this. By the way, this is something that was pointed out by Bill OReilly on The Factor several weeks ago.

"For many years, Dougherty said it was estimated that on any given night 250,000 veterans were homeless, and in the early 1980s, an estimated 40 percent of the homeless were veterans. Today, it is estimated that about one in five people who are homeless are veterans."

So current estimates are that there are 100,000 fewer homeless vets compared to the early 1980s.

"In 1987, the VA started its first program specifically targeting homeless veterans. This year, it will spend an estimated $300 million on such programs, although homeless advocates have said more funding is needed."

Three hundred million dollars is being spent just this year alone. And still, SLDO implies that the president neither cares nor is his administration doing anything to help these people. Mad I guess there were no homeless vets while Clinton was president. Roll Eyes
 
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This study does'nt show those veterans who are living with a family member or friends. God forbid if something should happen to the home owner these veterans are living with. The list of homeless veterans will increase. If the government can house these lazy parasite welfare recipients. Somebody please tell me why our government can't find houseing for our veterans?
 
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I feel the government should help these homeless vets since war is a very ugly experience in their lives and to live thru the horror and inhumane sights thats the least they can do...find a home. I'm a retired vet and am lucky to have a home and I feel for my fellow vets.
 
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These numbers don't mean a thing, it's an estimate and numbers can be crunched in all sorts of directions ( including a decrease).I don't believe 20% of the homeless vets from the last count found homes in less than two years...as the story said , some of them aren't being counted twice , which helps account for the decline ( and I believe many aren't being counted at all.)
 
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The VA is saying this because it is an election year....
 
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If this is in fact true, it's sadder than I was thinking. Seems no body on here cares as I don't see any post on it except the 2 of us. Very pathetic that no one else even questions it.

Originally posted by GoldenSabers:
True, there is more detail , the NPR reported that the more helpful employees of the VA were to be told to NOT be so forthcoming in helping veterans navigate the confusing and complex benefits regulations.

It is a sad state of affairs, we must fight against this injustice and help our loved ones who fought for us...


It IS pathetic, but if good people stand by and do NOTHING then THAT would be TRAGIC and EVIL...

We must get prepared AND educated, SPREAD THE WORD...
 
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"For many years, Dougherty said it was estimated that on any given night 250,000 veterans were homeless, and in the early 1980s, an estimated 40 percent of the homeless were veterans. Today, it is estimated that about one in five people who are homeless are veterans."

So current estimates are that there are 100,000 fewer homeless vets compared to the early 1980s.


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VA and community programs targeting homelessness, a decline in the number of living World War II, Korean and Vietnam veterans, and an improvement in the way the annual estimate was taken so fewer people were counted more than once were all credited as reasons behind the overall decline.


At least part of the decrease was nothing more than improved accounting ... a "reduction" of homeless vets who never existed in the first place. I would be happier if they broke down how much of the decrease was due to what portions of the initiative. I am also troubled by the timing of the news release. As the economy is in the middle of going south, the public might be under the impression that these decreases are happening right now, rather than two years ago. Cool
 
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With nothing being done with VA overcrowding, I can see where Vets would
be still homeless. Here in north Texas the VA clinic at Fort Worth is
not accepting any new patients. That means Vets west of FW have to use
the CBCO program and that is still 30 to 50 miles having to travel, or
go to Dallas at a 100 miles or better just for basic health care.

I sent an E-Mail to Kay Graingers office about a month ago, asking what
she was going to do about the overcrowding conditions, I have not heard
from her since. Kay Grainger is running for re election as a Republican
Congress person in my district. Sleeping
 
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I just now received an e mail from a friend.... On 29 Jan 08 on the news, stated the Army had requested the VA NOT to help soldiers at Ft Drum, N.Y. to file for disability? Anyone else hear of such a thing? Any truth to this????

It was explained to my husband and myself that the V.A "Is not an advocacy group for the veteran"
This is why there are advocacy groups such as VFW and DAV etc. I think this STINKS because the vet is led to believe that the V.A is for THEM.
Actually it is a government agency that answers to congress the GAO and the DOD. NOT for the vet as they would have you believe.
Bull S--T isn't it.
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In the Last 30years how many times has the VA been right on anything having to do with veterans
 
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What realy gets me and this is nothing against the girls and guys coming back from the current two wars.....

But the VA really hasn't done anything to help the Veterans of the first Gulf War...... oh.... I forgot... they said there is no such a thing as the "Gulf War Syndrone"!!!!!! So I am taking about 20 different medications every day to try and control the symptoms of an illness that doesn't exist!!!! Yep..... Right!! and if you can believe the VA, I have some real nice ocean front property in Kansas I will sell you.
 
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To the one that wrote me a e-mail, I had just noticed your e-mail arriving right before my motherboard crashed. Write again or wait until I get the old hard drive mounted in this new computer.
 
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The Dept VA gives itself awards for do a super job. DVA bends the truth for years.
With the Recession go on ther will be more homeless. Longer waiting for processing.
DVA is in Denial - Again
 
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