what an *******!!! don't care about anyone but himself in the white house...

RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,163217,00.html

President Bush, should have thought about success 5 years ago when we went into Irag. Come Jan of 2009 he'll be dropping this problem on another President, who if John McCain will try to hang another "Mission Complete" banner outside the White House. Perhaps we'll send in another 100 thousand troops, put them on-line and purge the insurgants once and for all.

"I think our generals ought to be concerned about making sure there's enough of a presence so that the provincial elections can be carried out in such a way that democracy advances," he said. "I'll wait and hear what they have to say. But yes, that ought to be a factor in their recommendation to me."

Ah, yes....a President who will look to the Generals before opening his play book. Nothing wrong with that!

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Originally posted by cheriberry80:
what an *******!!! don't care about anyone but himself in the white house...

You might want to take a look at the TOS before you open fire like that, the Mods will not take that lightly

Could this, I wonder, have something to do with the American elections in November? Morning Dale . . . is it cold in Iowa?

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Originally posted by TPCAT:
Could this, I wonder, have something to do with the American elections in November? Morning Dale . . . is it cold in Iowa?

Morning Jim, It snowed five more inches this morning!

If you bring home troops are not, keep it out of the news.

Semper Fi

PS
78 in South Texas today, and not one snow flake.
Bill Clinton will be in town today trying to get us to vote for his wife.
Got To Get Water Balloons

To the Navy person who slam the President.

Why are you in the service?

I think you ought to leave, the service has no place for whinners and slugs of your caliber.

Don't need you, need real people who sworn to protect our country.

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Originally posted by MGYSGTPenn:
RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,163217,00.html

President Bush, should have thought about success 5 years ago when we went into Irag. Come Jan of 2009 he'll be dropping this problem on another President, who if John McCain will try to hang another "Mission Complete" banner outside the White House. Perhaps we'll send in another 100 thousand troops, put them on-line and purge the insurgants once and for all.

Roger that!

Bush is a worthless piece of **** and I can't wait until he is gone from office. He is the cause of the U.S. problems and the high prices we have today. Thanks Bush.

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Originally posted by gary51m:
Bush is a worthless piece of **** and I can't wait until he is gone from office. He is the cause of the U.S. problems and the high prices we have today. Thanks Bush.

Don't blame President Bush for ALL our problems today. Don't see too many Americans carrying signs, marching in protest outside the White House about the high cost of eggs or milk do you? NO. But let a Homo or Lesbo be denied his/her right to have sex or get married and we are ready to go to war.

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Originally posted by gary51m:
Bush is a worthless piece of **** and I can't wait until he is gone from office. He is the cause of the U.S. problems and the high prices we have today. Thanks Bush.

another troll hits the boards. You are violating TOS

Good Lord this conversation is going all over the place...mind you i could think of better ways of spending 1.2 billion per week in Iraq...

A friend of mine is getting ready to go back.. A-stan this time.. He's a little disapointed not to be going back to Iraq to see for himself how/if things have changed, as he already has a couple of years invested there, instead he's going to a great 'new' unknown. I wish him and all the rest the very best of luck in Iraq or A-stan..

This article is reinforcing the President's position, which has been esentially the same for the past 2 years: when "staying the course" replaced "We'll stand down after the Iraqis stand up.".

Those who want to carry on with this Crusade will vote for McCain. The rest will vote for Obama (or Nader??!!). I wish that we could get to the elections faster than the calendar allows!

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Originally posted by cheriberry80:
what an *******!!! don't care about anyone but himself in the white house...

Before you get tossed, argue policy, not insult the POTUS.

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Originally posted by MGYSGTPenn:
RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,163217,00.html

President Bush, should have thought about success 5 years ago when we went into Irag. Come Jan of 2009 he'll be dropping this problem on another President, who if John McCain will try to hang another "Mission Complete" banner outside the White House. Perhaps we'll send in another 100 thousand troops, put them on-line and purge the insurgants once and for all.

I'm OK with your comments, and accept your comment re 100 thousand more troops as tongue= in-cheek. It does, however, give me a platform for my observations which may shed further light on the state of our armed forces.

There's a wiff of betrayal in the air, a hint of a rumor(from our troops on Iraq) , of another extension coming up as we aim to maintain our troops levels in Iraq. I add to my list of signals that the force is not adequate in numbers to the needs of the mission. Previously, I noted the deployment extensions of a year ago, the short dwell times, the brutual mission schedules. Now, lets talk about bribery - stripes for re-enlistment, not going to reenlist? no recommendation for the E5 board (no stripes). Reenlist and we'll get you the stripes. How about this one, article 15 ajuticated in a non-consequential way in return for reenlistment? Good men are being denied promotion because they will not reenlist, even after putting most of two tours in Iraq, others are promoted in return for hanging around. Aside from the injustice and stupidity, we will pay dearly as these less than capable individuals make their mark on their respective units, perpetuate their own performance on subordinates, and chase good people out of the service.

The politically unattractive solution is to restore the draft, conscript with some standards and criteria that will ensure that the services are staffed with capable people and promote on merit.Time for good leaders, at all levels, to stand-up and take the action needed. Git er done !

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Originally posted by gary51m:
Bush is a worthless piece of **** and I can't wait until he is gone from office. He is the cause of the U.S. problems and the high prices we have today. Thanks Bush.

WOW! What a well thought out arguement against the president's policies!

It's Monday, anyone that needs to may use this as a baseline to check calibration on your sarcasm meters.

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Originally posted by AGBrina:
This article is reinforcing the President's position, which has been esentially the same for the past 2 years: when "staying the course" replaced "We'll stand down after the Iraqis stand up.".

Those who want to carry on with this Crusade will vote for McCain. The rest will vote for Obama (or Nader??!!). I wish that we could get to the elections faster than the calendar allows!

How is this staying the course? We are in the process of withdrawing 25% of our combat forces. Only a fool would commit to continuing the drawdown without an assessment period first. He has not said further drawdowns will not happen, we just want to see the effect of the current drawdowns first.

The President is following the recommendation of GEN Petraeus, a view which is shared by the CENTCOM Commander. If the President did not follow their recommendation, you would probably be one of the first for claiming he failed to listen to his Generals.

The situation in Iraq is the best it has been in years. We are making progress. You had an argument (even if I did not agree with it) for pulling out troops when things were going poorly, but by sticking with that argument, you are "staying the course" of the defeatists, without realizing how that would reverse the gains we are now realizing.

What a great officer you must have made: "Our efforts are finally showing signs of success - hurry up and retreat!" What a disgrace.

SCOUTS OUT!

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Originally posted by godawgz: A friend of mine is getting ready to go back ... A-stan this time ...

Our son---now home on leave---is getting ready to go back to Iraq for his third tour. No it doesn't get easier, for him or for us.

My wife and I are completely satisfied with the top-to-bottom military leadership of the Corps and the Army. This leadership is outstanding.

We are less satisfied with the White House, with Congress, and with both political parties.

There is a near-complete civilian leadership vacuum in this war, which is apparent at the individual level, and at the political level, and at the strategic level.

In particular, the Iraq and Afghanistan war-fighting mission is well-led. But the Iraq and Afghanistan nation-building and peace-making missions have been fubar'd for several years, are fubar'd at the present time, and there is little prospect that our civilian leaders (in either party) will succeed in un-fubaring them anytime soon.

Frankly, it looks both parties have flat-out given up. Both parties now are mainly concerned with blame-gaming, and neither is proposing to provide any additional resources to our brave soldiers. Meanwhile the White House watches passively.

Replies to this post that blame-game or make excuses will be politely ignored. Because no war ever was won by blame-gaming or making excuses.