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RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,163063,00.html
The USA needs to pull all our assets out of foreign countries. We need to bring the troops home, the aircraft carriers home, and TCB in our own house.

USA must maintain a strong military. We have enemies who follow our lead in what ever the USA brings to the forefront. All over the world folk who used to dress in their own ethnic garb now come before the international press in Three Piece Suits, ties, Italian shoes. The USA corporate uniform leads the world. Castro came out of his military attire and wore USA corporate suits.

Countries emulate the USA. Our lifestyles, culture, music,slang has saturated the international community through the media.

Now that the USA is NUMBER ONE internationally we need to revamp our cold war foreign policy which the world views as EVIL. The USA must stop our militant foreign policy, bring our assets home, and get busy dealing with our own house.

Bring the troops home, view Iraq and Iran coming together positively and let that region deal with their own reconciliation.

SEMPER FI AND GOD BLESS AMERICA
 
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RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,163063,00.html
The USA needs to pull all our assets out of foreign countries. We need to bring the troops home, the aircraft carriers home, and TCB in our own house.
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This is simply untrue that we need pull our assets out of foreign countries or bring our troops home!

- Our assets in foreign countries are a sign of the United States strength. Even today, with our economy in a "downturn" we still have 95 percent employment -- an "envy" of the rest of the free world. Other countries have "their citizens" standing on OUR street corners "looking for jobs."

- Our troops have "sacrificed" too much to "GAIN THE Ground and Respect of our Assets" where ever those assets might be located. "All gave some, some Gave All!" Give it up? Hell No!

- Our Troops; where ever they ARE AT; are "TCBing" (Taking Care of Business) it; for US, HERE at Home.

- The Turkish Troops are leaving Iraq; AT OUR REQUEST! If the United States didn't have assets in foreign countries, troops in foreign countries, and "respect" from foreign governments -- our requests would go "Unfulfilled!"

- I like it this way; and, "it's a damm shame that you don't!

From A Proud Vietnam Veteran
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USA must maintain a strong military. We have enemies who follow our lead in what ever the USA brings to the forefront. All over the world folk who used to dress in their own ethnic garb now come before the international press in Three Piece Suits, ties, Italian shoes. The USA corporate uniform leads the world. Castro came out of his military attire and wore USA corporate suits.

Countries emulate the USA. Our lifestyles, culture, music,slang has saturated the international community through the media.

Now that the USA is NUMBER ONE internationally we need to revamp our cold war foreign policy which the world views as EVIL. The USA must stop our militant foreign policy, bring our assets home, and get busy dealing with our own house.

Bring the troops home, view Iraq and Iran coming together positively and let that region deal with their own reconciliation.

SEMPER FI AND GOD BLESS AMERICA
 
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- The Turkish Troops are leaving Iraq; AT OUR REQUEST! If the United States didn't have assets in foreign countries, troops in foreign countries, and "respect" from foreign governments -- our requests would go "Unfulfilled!"


No offense, Wes, but if we really had any respect among our allies, those Turkish troops would be in Afghanistan, and would never have gone into Iraq in the first place. Cool
 
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I can't wait to tell this to my hippie English Proffessor...

She was convinced we were about to go to war with Turkey and Turkey's invasion was the end of the world.
 
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- The Turkish Troops are leaving Iraq; AT OUR REQUEST! If the United States didn't have assets in foreign countries, troops in foreign countries, and "respect" from foreign governments -- our requests would go "Unfulfilled!"


No offense, Wes, but if we really had any respect among our allies, those Turkish troops would be in Afghanistan, and would never have gone into Iraq in the first place. Cool


oldmole,

As a new kid in here, I've mostly been reading the threads and have only rarely posted. Your posts have been spot on, as this one is. I'm going to be looking forward to your comments in the future.

hunter
 
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Would have been nice to see the Turkish soldiers fighting in Iraq during the first and second gulf wars helping us out not after the fact to appease there own interest ..ie the Kurd who shoul dbe allowed to have a piece of norther Iraq as there own country heck if Kosovo can break away and start anew why can't the Kurds and if they got there own place to call home they wouldnt bother the Turks who think of them as lower beings just like the Saddam regime did.
 
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oldmole; your premise is that the United States didn't approve of Turkish Troops "putting a stop to the PKK" operating out of Iraqi (Northern) Kurd Territories).

As you know, the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) was NO FRIEND of the United States, Iraq, nor Turkey.

The PKK is listed as a terrorist organization internationally by a number of states and organizations, including the United States, NATO and the European Union.

The United States (Leader of the Coalition Forces) HELD the power to STOP Turkish troops from invading Iraq; but, we didn't.

Why?

Because, it was in the Best Interests of freedom loving Countries to ALLOW Turkish Troops to DEAL WITH A COMMON ENEMY of all; e.g., PKK.

According to this news story extract:

The Turkish military said in a statement that the operation targeted some 300 rebels in Iraq's Zap region, and 240 of them were killed. Turkish losses stood at 27.

The United States, Turkey, and Iraq are "Happy" with the outcome!

And, it happened with the United States RETAINING "Respect" from two allied Middle East Governments!

Go Figure!

And, I'm happy also!

From A Proud Vietnam Veteran



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Originally posted by oldmole:
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- The Turkish Troops are leaving Iraq; AT OUR REQUEST! If the United States didn't have assets in foreign countries, troops in foreign countries, and "respect" from foreign governments -- our requests would go "Unfulfilled!"


No offense, Wes, but if we really had any respect among our allies, those Turkish troops would be in Afghanistan, and would never have gone into Iraq in the first place. Cool
 
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For those BELIEVING that Turkey; ain't helping in the Global War on Terrorism -- it's simply NOT accurate!

First, in Afghanistan, NATO's "International Security Assistance Force (ISAF)" has A VERY SIGNIFICANT lead role in helping that Government free itself from Taliban/al-Qaida control.

- Turkey is committing 835 troops to the ISAF.

Further; IF THE UNITED STATES had to give up the "logistically, reconnaissance, and war-fighting capabilities" of Incirlik AB, Turkey and the "overflight rights"-- The consequences would seriously DEGRADE the United States efforts to continue the GWOT.

Here's one extract worth reading from:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/incirlik.htm

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In early 2004 Incirlik had a new role as a temporary "terminal" for U.S. soldiers traveling home after serving about a year in Iraq. The more than 300 soldiers who arrived 06 Janueary 2004 were the first of thousands transiting through Incirlik during the massive Army troop changeover. To prepare for the influx, in a little more than a week base workers converted an empty hangar into a reception center. It includes a shoppette, Turkish sandwich stand, flight kitchen serving boxed lunches, Turkish gift shop, mini library, chaplain's office, and morale center with phones and Internet access.

A new mission kicked off in mid-2005 with the arrival and departure of C-17 Globemaster IIIs carrying cargo to Iraq supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom. The new mission, which works on a “hub and spoke” concept, calls for cargo to come into the base from Charleston Air Force Base, S. C., and be transferred to several locations in Iraq. The cargo hub mission moved to Incirlik from Rhein-Main Air Base, Germany, in an effort to conserve Air Force resources. It’s a fuel and flying time issue. It is more efficient for the C-17 because the cargo is delivered closer to Iraq without going to Iraq itself. By moving it to Incirlik, it is possible to move more cargo with fewer planes.

The C-17s, based out of Charleston, rotated in and out every two weeks or so. Although initially the mission supported Operation Iraqi Freedom, it has the ability to expand to support Operation Enduring Freedom, which includes Afghanistan. The flight to Afghanistan takes only about 8 hr., but includes an inflight refueling over the Black Sea from US or Turkish tankers based at Incirlik. It’s primarily general cargo. It is for sustaining operations in Iraq -- things like lubrication oil, parts for different things and a lot of add-on armor -- things people need to keep their mission going.

And while the cargo flying out of Incirlik kept the mission going, it also meant an increase of the support systems for the people who work on and with the aircraft stationed here, as well as an increase in aircrews and maintainers supporting the new operation. The aircrews are at Incirlink e for around two weeks at a time, and maintainers for anywhere between 30 and 120 days. More people on base means there is more workload to support."

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From A Proud Vietnam Veteran
 
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