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sounds more like a few mulsims got upset because these ex-terrorist said some bad stuff about their religion... i think someone is trying to deny what the islamofascist do because it tarnishes their religion... they do not want to accept it so they deny it...
 
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I think Walid Shoebat was correct when he said that "Islam is the devil."
If the shoe fits, wear it.
 
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F$%k a bunch of Protestors and CAIR… CAIR is nothing more than a terrorist support organization. They bully and intimidate others who say anything against someone who is critical of Islamism, “Mooselimb terrorists" and Islam in general. Just look at what they are trying to do to Michael Savage….
 
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I am hoping our Air Force leaders continue to maintain the moral high ground as suggested by Secretary Wynne and change their mind on their selection for guest speaker.

I have a hard time buying the line that this is not a religious discussion but a discussion of terrorism.

Knowing Shoebat's agenda, I'd probably give him about 30 seconds before his speech turns into a religious topic that slams the religion of Islam...a religion which many Airmen observe.
 
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Amen, Hooper can shove it right to where the sun don't shine. He should be forever bared from any Military Academy and any institution of higher learning for that matter, But since even he has the right to his fat mouth complaining then we all have the right to shout him down.
 
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Amen, Hooper can shove it right to where the sun don't shine. He should be forever bared from any Military Academy and any institution of higher learning for that matter, But since even he has the right to his fat mouth complaining then we all have the right to shout him down.


Ah yes, freedom of speech....but only to those we agree with. Typical left wing dogma. How fitting.
 
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I am hoping our Air Force leaders continue to maintain the moral high ground as suggested by Secretary Wynne and change their mind on their selection for guest speaker.

I have a hard time buying the line that this is not a religious discussion but a discussion of terrorism.

Knowing Shoebat's agenda, I'd probably give him about 30 seconds before his speech turns into a religious topic that slams the religion of Islam...a religion which many Airmen observe.


Something he might say scaring you son? Generally the use of the term "moral high ground" is used by those who would give up any ground just so they wouldn't have to fight. Since when is a discussion like this (wherever it goes) something to be avoided? Perhaps you could get together with Vsaws and shout the speaker down. That'll show'um how a REAL American acts.
 
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I am hoping our Air Force leaders continue to maintain the moral high ground as suggested by Secretary Wynne and change their mind on their selection for guest speaker.

I have a hard time buying the line that this is not a religious discussion but a discussion of terrorism.

Knowing Shoebat's agenda, I'd probably give him about 30 seconds before his speech turns into a religious topic that slams the religion of Islam...a religion which many Airmen observe.


well sometimes the truth hurts huh...
 
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Give them an opportunity to speak, as well. Let them exercise their "Free Speech" in our country.

However, make both presentation purely voluntary and limited to AF cadets only.

Then count heads.
 
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I am hoping our Air Force leaders continue to maintain the moral high ground as suggested by Secretary Wynne and change their mind on their selection for guest speaker.

I have a hard time buying the line that this is not a religious discussion but a discussion of terrorism.

Knowing Shoebat's agenda, I'd probably give him about 30 seconds before his speech turns into a religious topic that slams the religion of Islam...a religion which many Airmen observe.


Something he might say scaring you son? Generally the use of the term "moral high ground" is used by those who would give up any ground just so they wouldn't have to fight. Since when is a discussion like this (wherever it goes) something to be avoided? Perhaps you could get together with Vsaws and shout the speaker down. That'll show'um how a REAL American acts.


The use of the term "moral high ground" was a direct quote from the Secretary of the Air Force.

I'm not saying discussions on terrorism should be avoided. Quite the contrary.

What I am saying is that the Air Force Academy could have picked a better speaker...one who does not have his personal anti-Islamic agenda.

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well sometimes the truth hurts huh...


What truth outlaw?
 
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I dont know how i feel about this, i mean former terrorists speakin at the AF academy is kind of risky dont ya think...but on the other hand it could be very informative, these guys could give helpful knowledge that will help us continue to defeat terrorism across the world
 
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Islam...a religion which many Airmen observe.
And every 911 hijacker,Cole bomber,Khobar tower conspiritor.etc,
That's to NOT say that members of the US military who are Muslims are like those terrorists..But the purpose of these speakers is NOT to defame Islam..It's to castigate extremism...& show that there can be a better way...MOST muslims aren't terrorists..But nearly every terrorist is Muslim..I know..I know..The IRA isn't,but they've been lying low & seem to be a little more reasonable.
 
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Amen, Hooper can shove it right to where the sun don't shine. He should be forever bared from any Military Academy and any institution of higher learning for that matter, But since even he has the right to his fat mouth complaining then we all have the right to shout him down.

Ah yes, freedom of speech....but only to those we agree with. Typical left wing dogma. How fitting.
Think you may want to re-reference the article ... Hooper is a CAIR mouthpiece.
 
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We need more people, especially in government to address our enemies in all their madness. SunTzu 1) This is war. It is the most important skill in the nation. It is the basis of life and death. It is the philosophy of survival or destruction. You must know it well.

In order to defeat an enemy you must first know all that you can about him.
 
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I am hoping our Air Force leaders continue to maintain the moral high ground as suggested by Secretary Wynne and change their mind on their selection for guest speaker.

I have a hard time buying the line that this is not a religious discussion but a discussion of terrorism.

Knowing Shoebat's agenda, I'd probably give him about 30 seconds before his speech turns into a religious topic that slams the religion of Islam...a religion which many Airmen observe.


Something he might say scaring you son? Generally the use of the term "moral high ground" is used by those who would give up any ground just so they wouldn't have to fight. Since when is a discussion like this (wherever it goes) something to be avoided? Perhaps you could get together with Vsaws and shout the speaker down. That'll show'um how a REAL American acts.


The use of the term "moral high ground" was a direct quote from the Secretary of the Air Force.

I'm not saying discussions on terrorism should be avoided. Quite the contrary.

What I am saying is that the Air Force Academy could have picked a better speaker...one who does not have his personal anti-Islamic agenda.

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well sometimes the truth hurts huh...


What truth outlaw?
LOL ... suspect the Air Force Academy would be looking for a long time to find former terrorists that still subscribe to a pro-Islamic agenda - at least that are willing to speak.
 
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Amen, Hooper can shove it right to where the sun don't shine. He should be forever bared from any Military Academy and any institution of higher learning for that matter, But since even he has the right to his fat mouth complaining then we all have the right to shout him down.

Ah yes, freedom of speech....but only to those we agree with. Typical left wing dogma. How fitting.
Think you may want to re-reference the article ... Hooper is a CAIR mouthpiece.


You're right, my bad. However I still don't believe is shouting down an invited speaker regardless of his view.
 
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I wont slam the religion because I know muslims that are good people. BUT, amazing how advocacy groups always have something to say when you "slander them". How about some of these muslims get on their islamic brethren? How about one email condemning terrorists? They are quite the quiet ones when their islamic brethren are blowing up stuff. Hate tell them people, but they are half *** backwards. Say something negative, they have a cow. Detonate bombs and kill people shopping, silence. Does anyone else here see a fallacy?
 
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When Ahmedinijad (I wont attempt to spell his name right because I hate him) was allowed to speak at Columbia University in NYC, where was the protest from the islamic groups? Oh, I forgot, he spoke in tyranny, which is ok by them.
 
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And if it was a Christian group that pitched a b-tch about it, they'd have been told to sit down and shut up or get out, no religious intolerance! So hey, this is an equal opportunity problem, right? So if it's good for the Christians to be told to sit down and shut or get out, then it should be good for the Muslims to be told to sit down and shut up...
 
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