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The Toughest Fight in Anbar Province
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,159794,00.html
You got that right, Amen. |
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Not to sound like a downer or anything..but wouldn't a shift of the troops to more violent areas be a better use of assets? Not all of the Marines, a but a significant amount to help bolster in areas that could use the help.
Yeah, I'm not a ground commander...I don't see the whole picture, but it does seem like a waste of manpower. Just a question...And by the way, yes, I was a Marine (Panama 89) and I know just how Boredom can wear down a unit pretty quickly that was looking for action. |
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This is the kind of story that needs to be flooding the media circuits!!! Hopefully it will.
I'm sick and tired of them treating these stories like a disease.... While singular events of mass force are shown 24/7 |
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Not a Bush supporter and one of those who felt getting involved in Iraq was a mistake I still must applaud the fact that the violence has abated and things appear to be on track for a start of the evacuation of American troops.
Whether success is the direct result of the surge or just a decision by the citizens of Iraq to stand tall in the face of all the foreign fighters crossing their border from Iran the fact is the violence is down and that is great. Looking forward to the day when our men and women will all be out of Iraq. |
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GET SOME!!!
"Thank you, for your support." - Bartles & Jaymes |
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This success is actually happening in a lot of places in Iraq. Military personnel teamed with State Department specialists and other technicians form PRTs that help to rebuild the country's infrastructure. This is the way that this fiasco is going to be turned around. People are a lot less fired up if they have indoor plumbing, electricity and some boob tube.
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OOH Rah Great story, but don't drop your guard, I smell a rat, or something building in the horizon. I pray it is true that maybe you got most of them on the first round, but I just feel uneasy. It may be that Phantom Phoenix is working and have most of the insurgents tied down somewhere else. If this is true, break some off and go get sum!
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That is for d*mn sure. And the list gets longer. Iraqis (and Americans too) want:
If these things *are* present in Anbar, Al Qaeda will slowly wither. That is why our generals have been saying for several years "There will be no military victory." It is not known yet whether Anbar will work without our troops present. Based purely on common sense, it might well be much too soon to withdraw our troops. Without being a pessimist, but instead relying purely on common sense, that is why IMHO it is much too soon to say "We have won in Anbar." |
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Where are the Carriers? |
Dont forget 200 channels of shiite to choose from on TV. "Thank you, for your support." - Bartles & Jaymes |
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by phantomfire:
OOH Rah Great story, but don't drop your guard, I smell a rat, or something building in the horizon. I pray it is true that maybe you got most of them on the first round, but I just feel uneasy. I'm with you Phantom...I've kind of had a feeling from the beginning of this slow down that the injuns are biding their time until election time comes. They'll go nuts about the Sep. Oct. time frame and all the Liverals will start their sqwakin' about how the surge hasn't worked...Cut the reins, and let 'em mop up. |
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the military has hurry up and wait for a reason. This is the calm before the storm so stay on your toes and keep your heads down
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The surge has worked and positive results are happening (as I've said from the beginning). The regular news media should be trumpeting this type of information. How sad their defeatist mentality is. I agree with "Phantomfire" though. The closer we get to the election, the more incidents or "sigevents" will occur. It will only be grandstanding for the press though. Unfortunately, the press will turn negative and they will swallow the bait hook, line, and sinker.
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I hope these insurgent pinko left-wing bustards aren't laying back, re-supplying, and re-grouping. We've seen this act in a lot of places a lot of times. NEVER let your guard down. Our good ol' pal Mao Tse Dong said, knock he11 out of them, back off, disappear, regroup, re-arm, plan, and hit again. I'll tell you folks, this is a scary time. I believe in the surge, but I also believe in being ready for the next level. I won't be happy until more than 6-12 months have been quiet and the Iraqis are doing ALL of the patrolling and fighting.
Respects, Sergeant Major |
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It seems to me that more Irakees have trust in our soldiers.Believe me they will be dissapointed when we start leaving.We gave them democracy and they know that you can hear it from kids ,so thats a good feeling.In time more work will be there to keep men busyso they can enjoy freedom!!
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Absolutely right. Equally they will require honest local government, a functioning justice system, open schools and hospitals, and plenty of family-supporting jobs. Otherwise A-Q will be back in force mighty quick. Or else a dictator will seize control—as bad as Saddam was in the first place—and the whole show will have gone for naught. That is a military fact. Not convenient, but a fact none-the-less. We had better be prepared. |
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Sorry Marines, obamarama has taken credit for this. He said the violence stopped beacuse of dems opposition to the war. And pelosi says the surge is a complete failure. Congrats Marines on a Job Well Done!!!!! Semper Fi! |
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insurgent pinko left-wing bustards
You gotta be kidding. They have nothing to do with left/right...geez SM,this is 2008. The "evil empire" is dead. |
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Hear...hear...good post.
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There seems to be an attitude here that "We're winning ... now all we gotta do is keep applauding." If all we do is "keep applauding," this war is IMHO lost for sure.
One of the disastrous consequences will be, the politicians of both parties will cut-back on the nation-building and peace-making investment ... strictly to save money. The consequence of these cut-backs will of course be utter disaster in Iraq and Afghanistan, but hey, that disaster will become apparent only *after* the 2008 elections. And when did the politicians (either party) care about disasters *after* the votes are counted? As long as everything looks "nice-and-shiny" for the campaign speeches? |
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