RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,159669,00.html


"The audio and video recordings were made separately but were pulled together by the Navy. Often uneven and shaky, the video condenses what Navy officials have said was a confrontation of about 20 minutes."

So the tape released has been edited?!?!?

Well, there goes the final shred of credibility, can we write this off as another lame attempt to gin up support for war with Iran now?

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Originally posted by Grandjester:
RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,159669,00.html


"The audio and video recordings were made separately but were pulled together by the Navy. Often uneven and shaky, the video condenses what Navy officials have said was a confrontation of about 20 minutes."

So the tape released has been edited?!?!?

Well, there goes the final shred of credibility, can we write this off as another lame attempt to gin up support for war with Iran now?

Yes it would seem if you are an Iranian national or a lover of all things anti America...

iran is pulling sh*t with us, then claiming it is the US lying. iran is just playing a game with everyones head. if iran was to sink one of our ships, and we had it on tape, they would just say it was edited and we sunk it ourselves. iran is PLAYING ON THE GULLIBLE ANTI-AMERICA, THE 'BLAME AMERICA FIRST' CROWD

and of course CNN reports it as headline news.

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Originally posted by Grandjester:
RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,159669,00.html


"The audio and video recordings were made separately but were pulled together by the Navy. Often uneven and shaky, the video condenses what Navy officials have said was a confrontation of about 20 minutes."

So the tape released has been edited?!?!?

Well, there goes the final shred of credibility, can we write this off as another lame attempt to gin up support for war with Iran now?

Ineedadinnerjacket and company said it, so it must be true....

Of course they will say it is fake. Enough said.


ETCS(SW) USN ret

I can't believe the Captain of the ship AND the communications officers AND enlisted crew would all be willing to follow orders to lie. The idea that the Iranians are lying is much more plausible.

ETA: "So the tape released has been edited?!?!?"

Considering the boats were communicating to the Navy ships via radio, of course the audio and video had to be edited together. When was the last time you heard of a camcorder that recorded audio from ship's radio communication channels?

You would think in this day and age our warships would have voice/data recorders and deck cameras to capture these events for UN scrutiny.

Although, providing conclusiv proof to the UN is like giving a blind baby a fork to feed itself!

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Originally posted by Grandjester:
So the tape released has been edited?!?!?

So you believe anything you hear?!?!?!

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Originally posted by 6486143:

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Originally posted by Grandjester:
RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,159669,00.html


"The audio and video recordings were made separately but were pulled together by the Navy. Often uneven and shaky, the video condenses what Navy officials have said was a confrontation of about 20 minutes."

So the tape released has been edited?!?!?

Well, there goes the final shred of credibility, can we write this off as another lame attempt to gin up support for war with Iran now?

Yes it would seem if you are an Iranian national or a lover of all things anti America...

That is the Navy's statement I excerpted, NOT the Iranian response. You and everyone else dogging me should go ahead and read damn the article! The United States Navy took 20+ minutes of separate audio and video recordings and created a single five minute highlight reel. Now Tom, this is actually something I am an expert in, so don't try and tell me that any edited footage is a fair and impartial.

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Originally posted by benjdm:
I can't believe the Captain of the ship AND the communications officers AND enlisted crew would all be willing to follow orders to lie. The idea that the Iranians are lying is much more plausible.

ETA: "So the tape released has been edited?!?!?"

Considering the boats were communicating to the Navy ships via radio, of course the audio and video had to be edited together. When was the last time you heard of a camcorder that recorded audio from ship's radio communication channels?

Right, and even a few seconds out of sync and those two tracks can tell a completely different story. Without Time Base Sync, there is no way to tell what went where, so "editing" the tape was clearly the wrong thing to do. They should have turned the raws over to the media or STFU.

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Originally posted by Grandjester:

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Originally posted by 6486143:

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Originally posted by Grandjester:
RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,159669,00.html


"The audio and video recordings were made separately but were pulled together by the Navy. Often uneven and shaky, the video condenses what Navy officials have said was a confrontation of about 20 minutes."

So the tape released has been edited?!?!?

Well, there goes the final shred of credibility, can we write this off as another lame attempt to gin up support for war with Iran now?

Yes it would seem if you are an Iranian national or a lover of all things anti America...

That is the Navy's statement I excerpted, NOT the Iranian response. You and everyone else dogging me should go ahead and read damn the article! The United States Navy took 20+ minutes of separate audio and video recordings and created a single five minute highlight reel. Now Tom, this is actually something I am an expert in, so don't try and tell me that any edited footage is a fair and impartial.

I took the time to read it..it is titled:"Iran Says Pentagon Video is Fake"...and you seem to believe them....sorry you're as worthless as them here...

If it wasn't so damn sad, you guys would be hilarious. Skeptical of everything and everyone, in fact paranoid is not too far off the mark. But when the Administration reguritates such obvious pablum, you lap it up, then chaw down on the extra helping of tripe.

Go over the the Op-Ed page and get Cmdr. Huber's take on this, a bit more common sense than what's being tossed around here.

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Originally posted by 6486143:

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Originally posted by Grandjester:

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Originally posted by 6486143:

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Originally posted by Grandjester:
RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,159669,00.html


"The audio and video recordings were made separately but were pulled together by the Navy. Often uneven and shaky, the video condenses what Navy officials have said was a confrontation of about 20 minutes."

So the tape released has been edited?!?!?

Well, there goes the final shred of credibility, can we write this off as another lame attempt to gin up support for war with Iran now?

Yes it would seem if you are an Iranian national or a lover of all things anti America...

That is the Navy's statement I excerpted, NOT the Iranian response. You and everyone else dogging me should go ahead and read damn the article! The United States Navy took 20+ minutes of separate audio and video recordings and created a single five minute highlight reel. Now Tom, this is actually something I am an expert in, so don't try and tell me that any edited footage is a fair and impartial.

I took the time to read it..it is titled:"Iran Says Pentagon Video is Fake"...and you seem to believe them....sorry you're as worthless as them here...

I did not say it was fake, nor did I say I agree with the Iranians POV. I pointed out that the tape has been edited, which undermines credibility. Apparently quoting the Navy did not get through the first time, try and read it again, and AGAIN this is the Navy talking, NOT the Iranians, can you comprehend?

Here it is again, read very carefully and understand AGAIN that this is what the NAVY has to say about it:

"The audio and video recordings were made separately but were pulled together by the Navy. Often uneven and shaky, the video condenses what Navy officials have said was a confrontation of about 20 minutes."

Comprende Usted? Habla Ingles? Que lastima.

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Originally posted by Grandjester:
RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,159669,00.html


"The audio and video recordings were made separately but were pulled together by the Navy. Often uneven and shaky, the video condenses what Navy officials have said was a confrontation of about 20 minutes."

So the tape released has been edited?!?!?

Well, there goes the final shred of credibility, can we write this off as another lame attempt to gin up support for war with Iran now?

Are you serious... I mean come on now your anti-american I get that I didnt realise you were completely incompetent too. If you hold to those standards every single news agency has also no creditability as well.

i say, "play the whole tape, and audio as is... rough and unn edited.

if the Navy edits even the slightest bit of footage, any credibility is lost.

This is nothing really new. They are still upset with us for sinking one of their ships 20+ years ago durring the oil crisis of the late 70's. When I was on the Constellation they came with in 1/2 mile of the ship before they turned around. Only thing different in this is how close they came to these ships. I seriously doubt any of this was fabricated. Im surprised the Navy didnt sink them after what happened to the USS Cole. That whole region is the *** crack of the world.

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Originally posted by NickBrand:

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Originally posted by Grandjester:
RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,159669,00.html


"The audio and video recordings were made separately but were pulled together by the Navy. Often uneven and shaky, the video condenses what Navy officials have said was a confrontation of about 20 minutes."

So the tape released has been edited?!?!?

Well, there goes the final shred of credibility, can we write this off as another lame attempt to gin up support for war with Iran now?

Are you serious... I mean come on now your anti-american I get that I didnt realise you were completely incompetent too. If you hold to those standards every single news agency has also no creditability as well.

Read the my other posts Nicky, the MSM uses TBC, so even if they run a separate DAT for audio, both tracks are on the same time code.

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Originally posted by Grandjester:
If it wasn't so damn sad, you guys would be hilarious. Skeptical of everything and everyone, in fact paranoid is not too far off the mark. But when the Administration reguritates such obvious pablum, you lap it up, then chaw down on the extra helping of tripe.

Go over the the Op-Ed page and get Cmdr. Huber's take on this, a bit more common sense than what's being tossed around here.

Well, if you remember the Iraqis' Baghdad Bob, why would you think any different about the Iranian's propaganda ministry?
They are playing to the Arab world. It's the old, "My mustache is more manly than your little girl mustache!", so why are you so ready to believe the "other guys side" and not our own?
Respectfully, SUNLINER81

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Originally posted by Elesso:
i say, "play the whole tape, and audio as is... rough and unn edited.

if the Navy edits even the slightest bit of footage, any credibility is lost.

The USN has Cred over Iran any day of the week.

Should have blown those boats to bits, wonder if
Iran would have denied it happened then? The navy should have taught those towel heads a lesson.