RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,159011,00.html
Bush's Most Recent Request $196,400,000,000(when last I checked)
COST OF WAR PER DAY $538,082,191.78(or over half a billion)
COST OF WAR PER HOUR $22,420,091.32(or minimum wage for over 3-million workers)
COST OF WAR PER MINUTE $373,668.19(or over 1/3rd of a million... per minute!)
COST OF WAR PER SECOND $6,227.80(in 10 seconds you surpass average annual income)
FIVE MINUTE CIGARETTE BREAK $1,868,340.94(the $2Million cigarette)
FIFTEEN MINUTE COFFEE BREAK $5,605,022.83(does that mean your opinion plus $6,000,000 will buy you a cup of coffee?)

bwf27,
Go, go, go, go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is an E-3's cut of the whole mess?
Gunsmoke6, Nam, 65-66

I wonder how much of that $15B goes into the coffers of Haliburton and the Carlye Group? I wonder how much of Haliburton's and the Carlye Group's profits goes into the coffers of noted poitical figures?

Well, since it has been noted that the Dems and Libs are now richer then the Reps. Yea, I wonder also.....

Does anyone understand the time value of money as well? Money is all relative. Without money, nothing happens. So to put this in another example, there are no free lunches in life. Yup, wars are expensive but its the end result that matters most.

Not to worry. Obama said he is really going to make changes.

<sarcasm on>...yeah, let's just leave the middle east! That's it, quit!

<sarcasm off>...I don't care how much it costs in dollar amounts, American safety, LIFE, is wayyyyyy more important!


It's always those on the left that are concerned about money, yet they love raising taxes, spending that revenue, and wasting it on things that make people reliant on government! Aka...social entitlement programs!

SAD!

If the armys getting 4 billion I wonder how much the marines are getting, considering they usually get short ended.

How much of that is going to slush funds for Dems, after they cam in office to change things. Like we really need a Woodstock Museums. Aslo what is Welfare and Socail Sercurity costing us per day. What about Socialized Health care going to cost.

Don't ask those questions, the liberals don't want their precious social programs to be mentioned!

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Originally posted by DIRTYLODOWN:
How much of that is going to slush funds for Dems, after they cam in office to change things. Like we really need a Woodstock Museums. Aslo what is Welfare and Socail Sercurity costing us per day. What about Socialized Health care going to cost.

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Originally posted by Airborneinfantry:
Don't ask those questions, the liberals don't want their precious social programs to be mentioned!

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Originally posted by DIRTYLODOWN:
How much of that is going to slush funds for Dems, after they cam in office to change things. Like we really need a Woodstock Museums. Aslo what is Welfare and Socail Sercurity costing us per day. What about Socialized Health care going to cost.

Airborne/Dirtylodown,

Yes, the shame of it, those liberals who believe in "precious social programs" such as providing health care coverage for young Americans who are uninsured. To spend $35b over a five-year period for that program would have been so wasteful; how much better it is to spend $15b a month on war, particularly on a war we should never have fought (Iraq). The last thing we would want to do is to spend taxpayer dollars on Americans who need help.

Mustang

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Originally posted by oldmustang:

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Originally posted by Airborneinfantry:
Don't ask those questions, the liberals don't want their precious social programs to be mentioned!

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Originally posted by DIRTYLODOWN:
How much of that is going to slush funds for Dems, after they cam in office to change things. Like we really need a Woodstock Museums. Aslo what is Welfare and Socail Sercurity costing us per day. What about Socialized Health care going to cost.

Airborne/Dirtylodown,

Yes, the shame of it, those liberals who believe in "precious social programs" such as providing health care coverage for young Americans who are uninsured. To spend $35b over a five-year period for that program would have been so wasteful; how much better it is to spend $15b a month on war, particularly on a war we should never have fought (Iraq). The last thing we would want to do is to spend taxpayer dollars on Americans who need help.

Mustang

Yea, like Helping millions who signed a contract to pay for a house that they cant afford. Or what the millions of people that have to work to have health benefits. Or even put food on the table. Those people pay taxes so other can have food on their tables. Tell me You dont want govt to listen to your phone calls but you want them to mess with your money. Go Read Thomas Jefferson again. Govt has no money.

Health care will be needed quite a bit following terrorist attacks ;-)
And honestly... you think a government plan is going to be better? Why not just give each "low income American" enough money to buy their own health insurance from a private (ie cheaper) insurer? Oh wait.. then EVERYONE will want the gov't to pay for their insurance. Oh... and at around 300-400 bucks a month (minimum), that'd be a good 100 billion a month... more expensive if the government does it...so maybe 150 billion a month. Oh yeah... REALLY cheap.

That might last as long as Social Security if you're lucky... let's not try to control runaway legal and health care costs in this country... let's just throw more money at the problem!

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Originally posted by oldmustang:

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Originally posted by Airborneinfantry:
Don't ask those questions, the liberals don't want their precious social programs to be mentioned!

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Originally posted by DIRTYLODOWN:
How much of that is going to slush funds for Dems, after they cam in office to change things. Like we really need a Woodstock Museums. Aslo what is Welfare and Socail Sercurity costing us per day. What about Socialized Health care going to cost.

Airborne/Dirtylodown,

Yes, the shame of it, those liberals who believe in "precious social programs" such as providing health care coverage for young Americans who are uninsured. To spend $35b over a five-year period for that program would have been so wasteful; how much better it is to spend $15b a month on war, particularly on a war we should never have fought (Iraq). The last thing we would want to do is to spend taxpayer dollars on Americans who need help.

Mustang

It would be nice if some of that money was actually going to the troops and operations. It doesn't, I see these nice POVs driving some light around the FOB so he can go back to his office and watch CNN on his flat pannel LCD. Meantime I could hardly keep paper or printer ink to process stuff for Soldiers that were actually in the fight. Much less get them uniform items. It is NOT just the corporations that are profiting from this war. There are some of us that believe in the war, but as long as these types of "officers" are in charge, we ain't got a chance.

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Originally posted by Comanche_21:
Does anyone understand the time value of money as well? Money is all relative. Without money, nothing happens. So to put this in another example, there are no free lunches in life. Yup, wars are expensive but its the end result that matters most.

United States Personal credit card debt, United States Money spent on Porn, United States money spent in Casinos, ALL of these things individually DWARF the money spent on defense.

Extrapolate the money in the bill that goes to pay our soldiers salaries and the costs associated with equipping them before spewing anymore B.S. please!

85% of the Federal Budget is in Social welfare programs.

Maybe we should sell Alaska and Louisiana back to the previous owners to hopefully have enough funds to protect our beleaguered soldiers out there.

I'm not sure where everybody lives, but in most States hospitals are required to service walk ins no matter what age they are. In Florida, administering the indigent falls under Medicaid offering a number of plans. The figure supplied by news media states that 15 million out of 300 million people do not have health insurance. How many volunteer not to apply for insurance is anybodies guess. But if you offer free insurance and care to the 15 million what happens to the 285 million. You can't expect a double system. Cancel Blue Cross and Aetna, for that matter Medicare participants shouldn't have to pay either. I'm 72 years, been paying in a private plan and Medicare since I was 26 year, still paying $154 per month just for myself. One of daughters pays $300 for three. Doing the math she gets a better deal. Doesn't seem fair, but the day they stop my heart to do a four by-passes getting rid of some blockage it seemed worth it. This has been an election topic for years, much like the illegal aliens. The last administration wrote a book on immigration, nothing done about it, but Janet Reno expalined it in another book. Senator Mitchell, majority leader killed the Universal health program, with good reason. One reason it would be a killer at the mid term elections, which it was and the country couldn't afford it then, or now.

The cost of the worlds war is well worth when considering the alternate.

Considering that Military expenditure takes only 6% of the country's GDP, I don't see the uproar. However, if we were to go into a recession and if we decide to to have universal healthcare, the GDP will change drastically.
So, the question becomes this: If we continue to support the military and UHC, how much tax will be raised?

When I see people waiting in lines several blocks long in London to see a dentist, is this what I want? How about if you use it you pay for it? My government cannot get mail across town in 5 days, there is no way I want them involved in my health care. And you think postal employees are bad, wait until there are governmental workers in health care. I may just hang myself now.