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Iranian Weapons in A-stan?? Really?? Would they do that?? (Sarcasm)

It's only a matter of time before Iran is answering the knock at the door. I only wonder if that's what Amadi-Nejad has been after all this time.

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Originally posted by OFANDFORTHETROOPS:
Iranian Weapons in A-stan?? Really?? Would they do that?? (Sarcasm)

There are Iranian weapons in many countries in the world, just as there are Chinese, American, British, Russian, and on, and on, and on.
So what?
Extract below taken from Juan Xole of Informed Comment. and is myth #7 in a series of 10 about the war on terror.


Myth: Iran was supplying explosively formed projectiles (a deadly form of roadside bomb) to Salafi Jihadi (radical Sunni) guerrilla groups in Iraq.

Fact: Iran has not been proved to have sent weapons to any Iraqi guerrillas at all. It certainly would not send weapons to those who have a raging hostility toward Shiites. (Iran may have supplied war materiel to its client, the Supreme Islamic Council of Iraq (ISCI), which was then sold off from warehouses because of graft, going on the arms market and being bought by guerrillas and militiamen.

In that case Squiz you can't put the monkey on the U S back for selling arms. The arms come from independent corporations with a nod from Washington. In case you haven't notice you can't pass gas in Iran without the Revolutionary Guard and a dozen other government agency looking up your skirt. You're also loosing the battle of making this a unique battle between the U S versus the world. It's not. In fact, looking to Europe the French and Germans are boxing Ahmandinejad ears worse than the American.

Others have shown contempt of Iran for they not only supply weapons, training and leadership in conducting war, they also supply urging and mandates from their religious beliefs justifying action.

MacKay challenges Iran
Canada wants to stop cross-border flow of weapons and explosives to Taliban

Allison Lampert
Montreal Gazette; CanWest News Service


Wednesday, December 26, 2007


KANDAHAR AIR FIELD, Afghanistan - Canada has challenged the Iranian government over weapons and bomb-making equipment that it believes are slipping across the border to Taliban insurgents in Afghanistan.

"We're very concerned that weapons are coming in from Iran," Defence Minister Peter MacKay told reporters on Christmas Day while visiting Canadian troops with Gen. Rick Hillier in Kandahar province.

"We're very concerned that these weapons are going to the insurgents and are keeping this issue alive. We've certainly made our views to the Iranian government about this known."

Improvised explosive devices (IEDs), responsible for the majority of the deaths of the 73 Canadian soldiers killed in Afghanistan, were particularly a concern, he said.

"It's so difficult to cut these supply lines when you have people from other countries giving out weapons that are being used against Canadian Forces and troops from other countries," MacKay said.

He was echoing U.S. concerns that Iran is fuelling the war in Afghanistan by supplying weapons to the Taliban.

Insurgents' use of IEDs and other tactics have led to a record number of Canadian deaths in Afghanistan so far this year.

Despite the bloodshed, Canada's soldiers are eager to continue the Afghan mission, said Hillier, Chief of the Defence Staff of the Canadian Forces.

"Right now, I would say the morale of the soldiers that I've spoken to is incredibly strong. They're not asking to come home. They believe in what they're doing," Hillier said.

Hillier, MacKay and U.S. Ambassador to Canada David Wilkins served a Christmas dinner of tortiere and turkey to hundreds of troops stationed at the Kandahar Air Field.

The two-day holiday visit went smoothly, unlike MacKay's last trip to Afghanistan in November which was marred by a rocket attack.

A rocket was fired later in the night at the sprawling base after the dignitaries left.

Dressed in a Canadian Forces camouflage, MacKay praised the soldiers, singling out Quebec's Royal 22nd Regiment, which accounts for the bulk of the troops serving on this rotation.

The hole bit about Iran not giving weapons to Sunnis: last year a rocket, the same iranian kind that was used against Israel in the summer war struck a Shiite neighborhood. Might've been fired by rival shiites who knows. But I'd NEVER use words like never in that part o the world

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There are Iranian weapons in many countries in the world, just as there are Chinese, American, British, Russian, and on, and on, and on.

I am so glad to hear this. I was very worried that this isn't a problem anymore. I am just so happy to hear that Iran is really out to stabilize Afghanistan and Iraq. This despite the fact if that happened it would be supporting two countries that will then be moderate Islamic states. Something against the stated goal of the Iranian leadership. And the guys that the US caught at an Iranian government owned and operated facility with bomb making materials and more than their fair share of weapons, well they weren't supplying Iraqi militias at all. Or training them, it was all a big misunderstanding. And those Austrian .50 cal sniper rifles that the Austrians sold to the Iranian government and those same rifles being found in the hands of Iraqi militias/terrorists that was UPS just delivering to the wrong address? /Sarcasm/

Please wake up and smell the coffee. The Iranians are not interested in a stable western leaning Iraq and Afghanistan. It would not be in their interest at all. It is the publicly stated goal of the Iranian government to extend a repressive hard line Islamic state from as far north, east, south and west they can possibly extend it. In their minds the southwest Asia first then the world.

Iranian rifles in Iraq

Iranian goals

Iran is not run by mad men it is run by smart men that want to expand a fundamentalist form of Islam to the rest of the world. They will seek to achieve that goal by what ever means they have available. If you don’t get this then you are just seriously deluded or not very smart.

Hey Squiz we need a libvol {liberal volunteer} to go to Iran and give President Mahumoud Ahmadinejad a big hug and kiss and mabey he'll let you tiptoe through his tulips for peace on earth

You have only very few choices
1)You blow them all off the map.OR
2)if you think thats not the humane way then get all foreigners who don't belong there out,this encludes all embassies.
There will never be peace in the arab world.Never has been, Never will be.
The only way to peace is to mind ones business and stay in ones own yard.

Amen Gunny,and MOX NIX.

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Originally posted by Squizzer:

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Originally posted by OFANDFORTHETROOPS:
Iranian Weapons in A-stan?? Really?? Would they do that?? (Sarcasm)

There are Iranian weapons in many countries in the world, just as there are Chinese, American, British, Russian, and on, and on, and on.
So what?
Extract below taken from Juan Xole of Informed Comment. and is myth #7 in a series of 10 about the war on terror.


Myth: Iran was supplying explosively formed projectiles (a deadly form of roadside bomb) to Salafi Jihadi (radical Sunni) guerrilla groups in Iraq.

Fact: Iran has not been proved to have sent weapons to any Iraqi guerrillas at all. It certainly would not send weapons to those who have a raging hostility toward Shiites. (Iran may have supplied war materiel to its client, the Supreme Islamic Council of Iraq (ISCI), which was then sold off from warehouses because of graft, going on the arms market and being bought by guerrillas and militiamen.

BULLETIN: AP (Washington), DEC 26, 2007. Walt Disney Enterprises today reports that the Fairy Queen has been suspended from further Disney productions while an investigation proceeds to determine if she has supplied "fairy-dust" to insurgents and the Taliban in Afganistan. A Disney spokesman has stated" "We have it on good authority from Goofey and Pluto that the Fairy Queen was seen in Kandihar, Afganistan meeting with known rebel and Taliban leaders. She turned over a lage bag of what appeared to be fairy-dust. A UN IAEA weapons expert has indicated that fairy-dust, in the hands of terrorists, could wreak havoc on NATO forces in Afganistan. It's known effects are to cause troops to lose their will to fight and to hug, kiss, and join in a giant song-fest and sing "It's a Small, Small World".

SECDEF says the use of fairy-dust consitutes "chemical warfare". Additionally, he states, "The use of fairy-dust also causes the troops to violate the Clinton Rule of "Don't ask, don't tell".

The CIA director has determined that the fairy-dust has been supplied by the government of Iran to the Queen Fairy, for terroristic purposes in Afganistan. Since Iran "hangs" all fairys in their country, the CIA believes that the fairy-dust was supplied to Iran by Russia.

The National Security Agency (NSA) is said to be in discussions with the Tooth Fairy to enlist her as a clandestine agent in Afganistan to counter the actions of the rogue Queen Fairy.
She has already taken the NSA oath and has promised to tell the tooth, and only the whole tooth.

Updates are to be forthcoming.

No news here...now the Iranians would be crying foul if the Coalition took to surgical bombing in order to take out any known facilities that are manufacturing these weapons, now wouldn't they? I say, why not? No boots on the ground needed either....

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Originally posted by DocVQone:

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Originally posted by Squizzer:

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Originally posted by OFANDFORTHETROOPS:
Iranian Weapons in A-stan?? Really?? Would they do that?? (Sarcasm)

There are Iranian weapons in many countries in the world, just as there are Chinese, American, British, Russian, and on, and on, and on.
So what?
Extract below taken from Juan Xole of Informed Comment. and is myth #7 in a series of 10 about the war on terror.


Myth: Iran was supplying explosively formed projectiles (a deadly form of roadside bomb) to Salafi Jihadi (radical Sunni) guerrilla groups in Iraq.

Fact: Iran has not been proved to have sent weapons to any Iraqi guerrillas at all. It certainly would not send weapons to those who have a raging hostility toward Shiites. (Iran may have supplied war materiel to its client, the Supreme Islamic Council of Iraq (ISCI), which was then sold off from warehouses because of graft, going on the arms market and being bought by guerrillas and militiamen.

BULLETIN: AP (Washington), DEC 26, 2007. Walt Disney Enterprises today reports that the Fairy Queen has been suspended from further Disney productions while an investigation proceeds to determine if she has supplied "fairy-dust" to insurgents and the Taliban in Afganistan. A Disney spokesman has stated" "We have it on good authority from Goofey and Pluto that the Fairy Queen was seen in Kandihar, Afganistan meeting with known rebel and Taliban leaders. She turned over a lage bag of what appeared to be fairy-dust. A UN IAEA weapons expert has indicated that fairy-dust, in the hands of terrorists, could wreak havoc on NATO forces in Afganistan. It's known effects are to cause troops to lose their will to fight and to hug, kiss, and join in a giant song-fest and sing "It's a Small, Small World".

SECDEF says the use of fairy-dust consitutes "chemical warfare". Additionally, he states, "The use of fairy-dust also causes the troops to violate the Clinton Rule of "Don't ask, don't tell".

The CIA director has determined that the fairy-dust has been supplied by the government of Iran to the Queen Fairy, for terroristic purposes in Afganistan. Since Iran "hangs" all fairys in their country, the CIA believes that the fairy-dust was supplied to Iran by Russia.

The National Security Agency (NSA) is said to be in discussions with the Tooth Fairy to enlist her as a clandestine agent in Afganistan to counter the actions of the rogue Queen Fairy.
She has already taken the NSA oath and has promised to tell the tooth, and only the whole tooth.

Updates are to be forthcoming.

WOW!! 10.0 10.0 10.0 10.0 10.0 8.8 10.0 10.0 10.0. You just know that 8.8 had to be from the Russian judge. They have no sense of humor. An outstanding piece of penmanship if ever I saw one.

Pete should have started with "I have been told..." for, aside from that, he has as much evidence of his position as anybody else shy of an Iranian arms peddler. Which isn't much.

Tinkerbell excluded, as she seems to know all.

Like any case in court, one has to lay out the evidence as proof to show the 'defendent' is indeed guilty. Iran has been proven complicent and guilty in all of the upgraded IED's and flow of weapons to the insurgents on both sides of it's borders. Soon the 'Judge' is going to lay down the punishment and it's going to be harsh, quick, and decisive. The 'defendent' has gone passed his time for making deals with 'the Court' and doesn't think this is a serious deal, kind of like Britney Spears.

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Originally posted by bjpeters:
Like any case in court, one has to lay out the evidence as proof to show the 'defendent' is indeed guilty. Iran has been proven complicent and guilty in all of the upgraded IED's and flow of weapons to the insurgents on both sides of it's borders. Soon the 'Judge' is going to lay down the punishment and it's going to be harsh, quick, and decisive. The 'defendent' has gone passed his time for making deals with 'the Court' and doesn't think this is a serious deal, kind of like Britney Spears.

What evidence has been produced? None. Or do you have some that Pete McKay and Rick Hillyer could see? They're working somebody's 'strong hunch'.

Opinions, there are tons of those. Maybe even some heartfelt convictions ... like the kind that invaded Iraq.

Go for it, the world needs another war!

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Originally posted by popsiq:

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Originally posted by bjpeters:
Like any case in court, one has to lay out the evidence as proof to show the 'defendent' is indeed guilty. Iran has been proven complicent and guilty in all of the upgraded IED's and flow of weapons to the insurgents on both sides of it's borders. Soon the 'Judge' is going to lay down the punishment and it's going to be harsh, quick, and decisive. The 'defendent' has gone passed his time for making deals with 'the Court' and doesn't think this is a serious deal, kind of like Britney Spears.

What evidence has been produced? None. Or do you have some that Pete McKay and Rick Hillyer could see? They're working somebody's 'strong hunch'.

Opinions, there are tons of those. Maybe even some heartfelt convictions ... like the kind that invaded Iraq.

Go for it, the world needs another war!

Are you deaf and blind? Maybe just stupid? Even the LMSM has reported the findings.

Ignorance is curable, stupidity isn't.

Just 'cause we punch a big hole in someone's country doesn't mean we have to admit it. Pops is right. It's not what you know, it's what you can prove that matters.

Iranian IED's showing up in Afghan? Just like in Iraq but ofcourse the Iranian government will deny any knowledge of such activity. Not surprised.

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Originally posted by rayevinsonsr:
In that case Squiz you can't put the monkey on the U S back for selling arms. The arms come from independent corporations with a nod from Washington.

No more than you can put the same monkey on the back of Iran for doing no more than you do. So who's the irresponsible one? The US for selling arms all over the world? Or Iran for emulating the US?
What was your point again?

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In case you haven't notice you can't pass gas in Iran without the Revolutionary Guard and a dozen other government agency looking up your skirt. You're also loosing the battle of making this a unique battle between the U S versus the world. It's not. In fact, looking to Europe the French and Germans are boxing Ahmandinejad ears worse than the American.

I think you're alone in wanting to do anything pre-emptively militarily, aren't you?

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Others have shown contempt of Iran for they not only supply weapons, training and leadership in conducting war, they also supply urging and mandates from their religious beliefs justifying action.

A certain President Bush said, just a few years ago: (June 2003) "I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,' and I did."
Sound familiar?

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MacKay challenges Iran
Canada wants to stop cross-border flow of weapons and explosives to Taliban

Y'know, a few years ago, Iran offered their cooperation in stopping what seemed to be a slide into civil war in Iraq. The US refused their offer out of hand, for no good reason.
What is the death toll in Iraq nowadays?
Why should anyone realistically believe that the US isn't simply seeking to reduce Iran to the exact same state that Iraq finds itself in today?
You right-wingers insist that US tactics are working in the fight against terror, and the tactic is to reduce the country of interest back to the stone age where tribal rivalries prevent the country from attaining any kind of cohesion. Well, if you happen to be one of the countries that oppose US foreign policy, wouldn't that suggest that, in order to survive, you'd better fight them over there so you don't have to fight them at home............ No?
Wouldn't that be slightly self-defeating for the US?