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RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,156917,00.html
The ammo dumps should have been secured at the begging of the occupation of Iraq, the fact that they are just know running out makes me a little peeved, but at least attrtion has begun to play a part in the war against I.E.D.s |
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How does this story cross with charges that Iran is supplying the insurgents? Maybe Iran is not the threat that our generals were claiming just a few weeks ago.
The story is consistent with the reports that violence is way down across the country. So now that "the good guys" are winning and the "bad guys" are dead or in jail, do we leave; or do we justify our permanent presence some other way? |
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This is good news, but not surprising given that most Sunnis gave up their fight against U.S. forces some time ago. At any rate, this is good news for those who serve in Sunni led parts of Iraq. However, it does not mean that all is well in that country.
Most troubling to me is the solidifying of Sunni and Shia strongholds. Combined with the lack of political progress in Baghdad, as well as our Sunni allies' refusal to recognize the Shia led government there, it appears inevitable that a crisis is in the works. This, of course, is bad news for the Iraqi people, who were supposed to be freed by our decision to invade Iraq, not enslaved by warring factions that resulted. Still, we can turn this around, and must less we surrender Iraq to the hopelessness that bred extremism and terrorists elsewhere in the Middle East. But, this will require a concerted effort on the part of our many diplomats to forge some sort of agreement regarding the sharing of oil revenues in Iraq. Even then we will be leaving Iraq in the hands of bitter enemies, enemies who may decide that a temporary cease-fire is good cover for an eventual surge designed to capture what resources remain beyond their reach. These are the realities of Iraq that convinced George Bush Sr. to stay out of that country. What we have seen of Iraq these past six years is a testiment to the abilities of those who were initially responsible for assessing the possible outcome of war in Iraq. It is just too bad that their assessments were not taken into account when post-war operations began, for it is likely to have produced more positive results than the delusional hope for immediate improvement has. |
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Thats good news Intel. and keeping those borders around guarded helps also or are they saving ammo incase the Turkish attack?Either way its good news hope it stays that way...
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Has anyone looked at this as encouraging instead of another attempt to create negativity? Just because there is a low number of explosives and a decrease in violence doesn't mean there won't be an increase down the road. This could just be a ploy on the part of the insurgency.
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It is good news ... d*mn good news. To complete the victory, we have to eliminate both the material to build bombs, and the motivation to build those bombs. That means, serious investment in nation-building and peace-making, in Iraq and Afghanistan. This three-front strategy of war-fighting, nation-building, and peace-making, first at the local level, then at the national level, is the only winning strategy we have got. |
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of course the last 3 days hasnt been good with several car bombs and such in Baghdad. My concern lately is the northern push by militants and the talking between them and the PKK. THAT isnt a good development. |
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Maybe OSB has a logistics problem. Perhaps, he has to rob "piggy" banks to continue his efforts. Of course, I recently read about some of our contractors that might help him.
Gunsmoke6, Nam 65-66, Garry Owen, Sir |
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Lotsa questions. One way to wear down your political opponent is with lots of questions. It doesn't matter that the questioner may not have an idea what their answers are. Or they may simply be honest questions. How does one tell? This humble corespondant cannot, without investigation, so he will attempt to answer the questions and wait for the response. The response(s) will tell. Q1: The answer is evidence: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1785438/posts http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/13/wiran313.xml The above two stories deal with "lead launchers" whose existence continues afer many uses. Explosives pretty much cease to exist after only one use, so evidence is more difficult to sift out. But really: If they supply rifles do ya think they'd hesitate to supply explosives? (Dang! ANOTHER question! Sorry about that.) Q2: This answer is not so easy. Any response to a "win" in the extreme is wrong. Stay, and forever oversee Iraq's government. or Declare a "win," and beat feet outa there, leaving the Iraqis to their own tender mercies, or to the mercy of the Iranians and Syrians. I suspect the most practical answer is lies somewhere between (insert here: the screech of the libertarian in me). We have a vested interest in maintaining peace in the region, so must maintain a presence in the area comensurate with any threat to the peace. |
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Do you have any idea how large these CSA's are? We're talking 2+ square miles chocked full of muntions. Throughout my first 2 tours here, we'd crank off 5 or more 10K to 20K pound shots a DAY, and we barely were scratching the surface of ONE CEA. That's in addition to the IEDs and UXO calls we'd clear. It's not surprising it has taken this long to wear down the supply. |
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Sounds like good news to me. Maybe soon they'll be setting off Mentos bombs in Pepsi.
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yea they should have secured the dumps and ammo factorys on there way to baghdad
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Hindsight is 20/20. You aren't saying anything new. |
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Libturds don't know what good news sounds like or looks like or feels like.
Bad news whiney libturds refuse to acknoldege good news even if it wears miniskirts and silk stockings. |
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America didnt have enough soldiers to secure every dump in the country. They hired guards to watch the ammo dumps. To bad they didnt watch the dumps.
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I'm not a liberal but, I'm skepticle. I have seen the Bush Admin mess up the Iraq War. Ever since Bush made his landing on the ACC and declared victory, I have watched insurgents blowing up our GIs with IEDs. For three years I have listened to Rumsfeld same old, "stay the course" message; we don't need more troops, etc. What really p*$$ed me off was the three week stand in Fallujah! Why we didn't pull our marines out and use our superior AF and weapons to destroy that town with al Sadr in it was beyond me!  I don't want to hear collateral damage and poor civilians being killed. THAT'S WAR!!!  I want to win this war but, I don't believe that Bush is the CinC that can do it. This war is going in it's 6th year without a remote resolution. This is why liberals are questioning and I am questioning. Hindsight is 20/20 but, come on, if we would have started the surge in 2003 instead of this year, I would think all would be secured by now. Also, if we thought they had WMDs, wouldn't we be diligently searching them out, along with the IEDs??? You want to shut the liberals up? Have an exit strategy! So, forgive my skeptism but, like the libs, I will continue questioning Bush. He's running out of time in office and now, he's going to take on Iran. Do you think he has an exit strategy for that war?  JMHO, I could be wrong... |
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 Iraq is an ammo dump. |
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If the situation in Iraq continues to improve it makes me wonder what lie the administration will use to maintain the current troop strength in Iraq? I'm sure it will be some lame Al Qaeda threat, "Iranian influence", or the boogeyman.
Since we've spent hundreds of million of dollars on permanent bases in Iraq I guess we have to have an excuse to base troops there...right??? |
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-Yep, and Mark Clark should'a sent the 5th Army to Valmontone instead of running to Rome, what else is new. |
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Are you calling the generals of the U.S. army and everyone under there command liars? |
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