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For years I've said over and over, again and again, there is no power on earth that can force any of these "Middle Eastern" people to behave themselves. Therefore, the only LOGICAL choise is to stay the hell away from them altogether or nuke and kill them all at the same time! Life is about choices, the willful election to chose poorly based on wrongful motovations and short term solutions, will without question bring about equally poor consequense! If you chose then fer chrisakes chose a solution that doesn't make the final outcome of the problem WORSE.

So far we are batting 'Lyons 6, Christen's 0'! I can't imagine short of nuking Iraq that we could have possibly made things any worse then we have! This new deal with the Paki's, doesn't look good, contrary to what they tell Washington, these people make Charles Manso appear sane! Well there you are!

you surprise me everyday.

Oopsie!

Hope this isn't giving Cheney any ideas for Jan. '09.

What gets me is now Pakistan's aid from the U.S is going to be ''reviewed''. This guy needs are help, but we got our forces elsewhere. Should of stayed in Afghanistan!

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Originally posted by usmc_MMP:
you surprise me everyday.

He also duplicates threads.

The term Middle eastern, a misnomer in this case, is a British discription of anything from Northern West Africa to India. In reality Pakistan is in the Indian sub-continent of Asia. The people are multi-cultured and mostly Muslim but NOT of the radical terrorist type. I expect someone has to label people to hate them. You might want to define the Taliban to fit your purposes and they're mainly from Afghanistan and of the Pashtun tribe, that have at least a 2,000 year history. Their laws are handed down from generation to generation and is designed for the continuation of the Pashtun. What difficulties is experienced today is from the northwestern province and home of the Waziris which is the largest tribe. Also home to Pathan tribe inhabiting the mountains on the Peshawar border. All the tribal area received autonomous power from past administration of Pakistan, NOT FROM President Musharaff. And, finally, if you look at our short history one could say we are not always on our best behavior.

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Originally posted by Grandjester:
Oopsie!

Hope this isn't giving Cheney any ideas for Jan. '09.

well if assanation attempts where a daily thing then maybe... i really dont like it it smells bad but we just got to see what happens....

we can not let islamofascist get nukes... just can not happen.... if it does we will see them used....hell we might even take a few... then what???

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Originally posted by rayevinsonsr:

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Originally posted by usmc_MMP:
you surprise me everyday.

He also duplicates threads.

The term Middle eastern, a misnomer in this case, is a British discription of anything from Northern West Africa to India. In reality Pakistan is in the Indian sub-continent of Asia. The people are multi-cultured and mostly Muslim but NOT of the radical terrorist type. I expect someone has to label people to hate them. You might want to define the Taliban to fit your purposes and they're mainly from Afghanistan and of the Pashtun tribe, that have at least a 2,000 year history. Their laws are handed down from generation to generation and is designed for the continuation of the Pashtun. What difficulties is experienced today is from the northwestern province and home of the Waziris which is the largest tribe. Also home to Pathan tribe inhabiting the mountains on the Peshawar border. All the tribal area received autonomous power from past administration of Pakistan, NOT FROM President Musharaff. And, finally, if you look at our short history one could say we are not always on our best behavior.

i meant he surprises me everyday, because it seems like his stance is always changing. one day it will be that we are terrible because of a civilian casualty, and the next he wants to nuke the entire region

If Pakistan goes ballistic, what will India do? China? Russia? There are more folks frying fish their than just us - -

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Originally posted by rayevinsonsr:

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Originally posted by usmc_MMP:
you surprise me everyday.

He also duplicates threads.

The term Middle eastern, a misnomer in this case, is a British discription of anything from Northern West Africa to India. In reality Pakistan is in the Indian sub-continent of Asia. The people are multi-cultured and mostly Muslim but NOT of the radical terrorist type. I expect someone has to label people to hate them. You might want to define the Taliban to fit your purposes and they're mainly from Afghanistan and of the Pashtun tribe, that have at least a 2,000 year history. Their laws are handed down from generation to generation and is designed for the continuation of the Pashtun. What difficulties is experienced today is from the northwestern province and home of the Waziris which is the largest tribe. Also home to Pathan tribe inhabiting the mountains on the Peshawar border. All the tribal area received autonomous power from past administration of Pakistan, NOT FROM President Musharaff. And, finally, if you look at our short history one could say we are not always on our best behavior.

You sound sooo Republican, if you can't successfuly argue the facts kill the Messenger! That is so old of a ploy and just so you know, no one even believes for one second any more the "Sky is falling". My message is loud and clear. Its about making right choices, those hopefully that stop getting people, inncoent and otherwise killed to further our financial agenda! But, you already know that don't you!

First, Pakistan may be multi-cultured 1% other's, 99% Paki muslims, but then I don't know the exact ratio but it is along those lines! Second, the Pakistani hates the Jew's and American's equally, they are just smart enough to play us along so they can get our money! They tell our politician's whatever they want to hear to get the billions we give them in Aid annually. But, the truth is they are dyed in the wool muslims, they hate our guts because we are Christen's and that is that! OBL has been hiding out in their country, probably at the Presidents Mansion watching CNN with him and peeing their pants laughing at us! If you remotely think for one second that anyone in Pakistan is endeared towards us then you are on par with Charles Mansion, crazier then a lunatic! They hate us - understand the message now!

That said, next what a damn mess our "Politician's have got us in. Right now Turkey is about to invade Iraq, Pakistan is going off the deap end with nukes and God help us all if they don't lose them on India; then we have Cheney/Bush that are chomping at the bit to invade and occupy Iran and do the same thing to them as we are doing in Iraq! And our military is not only maxed out but, they are worn out along with the equipment they are using! All this adds up to in reality is the only one thing, we have accomplished not one single thing in 5 years of war and we are making a bigger mess then ever before in history! Want the proff, just open your eyes and look at reality!

Lastly, unless I misunderstand the history of Pakistan, which I don't, they broke away from India to start their own Muslim State. Just how multi cultured is that? BTW, all I'm saying is in this upcoming election "We the People" ought to wake up, look at the reality of things going on around us, and elect some people that will put a end to the maddness that we are currently in up to our eyeball's. Life is about choices!

Semper Fi my Marine Brother's

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Originally posted by DanDaily:

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Originally posted by rayevinsonsr:

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Originally posted by usmc_MMP:
you surprise me everyday.

He also duplicates threads.

The term Middle eastern, a misnomer in this case, is a British discription of anything from Northern West Africa to India. In reality Pakistan is in the Indian sub-continent of Asia. The people are multi-cultured and mostly Muslim but NOT of the radical terrorist type. I expect someone has to label people to hate them. You might want to define the Taliban to fit your purposes and they're mainly from Afghanistan and of the Pashtun tribe, that have at least a 2,000 year history. Their laws are handed down from generation to generation and is designed for the continuation of the Pashtun. What difficulties is experienced today is from the northwestern province and home of the Waziris which is the largest tribe. Also home to Pathan tribe inhabiting the mountains on the Peshawar border. All the tribal area received autonomous power from past administration of Pakistan, NOT FROM President Musharaff. And, finally, if you look at our short history one could say we are not always on our best behavior.

You sound sooo Republican, if you can't successfuly argue the facts kill the Messenger! That is so old of a ploy and just so you know, no one even believes for one second any more the "Sky is falling". My message is loud and clear. Its about making right choices, those hopefully that stop getting people, inncoent and otherwise killed to further our financial agenda! But, you already know that don't you!

First, Pakistan may be multi-cultured 1% other's, 99% Paki muslims, but then I don't know the exact ratio but it is along those lines! Second, the Pakistani hates the Jew's and American's equally, they are just smart enough to play us along so they can get our money! They tell our politician's whatever they want to hear to get the billions we give them in Aid annually. But, the truth is they are dyed in the wool muslims, they hate our guts because we are Christen's and that is that! OBL has been hiding out in their country, probably at the Presidents Mansion watching CNN with him and peeing their pants laughing at us! If you remotely think for one second that anyone in Pakistan is endeared towards us then you are on par with Charles Mansion, crazier then a lunatic! They hate us - understand the message now!

That said, next what a damn mess, right now Turkey is about to invade Iraq, Pakistan is going off the deap end with nukes, and Cheney/Bush want to invade Iran! And our military is not only maxed out they are worn out along with the equipment they are using! All this adds up to in reality is the only one thing we have accomplished in 5 years of war is we are making a bigger mess then ever before in history! Want the proff, just open your eyes!

Two threads same subject. It's not brain surgery, you're trying to steal from others.

Didn't read your last post past the spot you state Pakistan is 99% muslim so they can't be multi-cultural, which is bad enough, but calling them Paki shows even greater ignorance. (That reference in Karachi will get you a fat lip) I even explained the difference tribal background figuring you might catch on to "culture difference". You're not surprising, you are boring and I don't care what you ethnic background or registration states. I'm Independent, forgot more about Pakistan than you'll ever know and wager you haven't met a "Pakistani" in your life, if you call it that.

Pucker factor: 9+ with a bullet!

These medieval-minded @$$#ole$ HAVE THE BOMB !!!

Pakistan is just as out of control as all the rest of the region. BUT, we call them Allies? Shall we be known by the company we keep, what bedfellows are these? I know we strategically need an area to plop down over there and I understand the greenback has gone a long way to bolter the Pakinstani economy and we NEED the oil - but at what cost in the long run....what is the ultimate outcome here...scary to even consider. I am sure the Christian US is looked down up, despised through out the entire so-called Middle East. Why not - we don't think like them in the slightest. But the part that has been bouncing around in my head for years is why? Why do they behave like they do? Uncivilized! Can you imagine street scenes from anywhere over there being played out in YOUR own neighborhood on a regular basis, as an ordinary way of life. Think about it. I, for one, just can't imagine it. (Unless of course the gun banners get their way.) Sorry I had to get that in. Anyway, it seems to me it is not just the military or the regime in power or the regime trying to gain power, it seems like it is the mind set of ALL the people there, the entire population. I just flat don't get it!

"Gen. Pervez Musharraf, a 1999 coup leader and U.S. ally who had promised to relinquish his army post and become a civilian president this year, declared a state of emergency Saturday night, dashing hopes of a smooth transition to democracy for the nuclear-armed nation."

We better keep an eye on this guy, he already got nuke's, and so do india. So much for trying to be the good guy. Truthfully, I never liked the guy.

"A leopard cannot change his spots"

Putin? A pussycat.

Chavez? A big ugly Teddy Bear.

You need an hombre with double set of cojones to declare martial law and set himself up as emergency saviour of the country.

Ain't ya glad he's not in the 'Axis of Evil'?

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Originally posted by wtpworrier:
"Gen. Pervez Musharraf, a 1999 coup leader and U.S. ally who had promised to relinquish his army post and become a civilian president this year, declared a state of emergency Saturday night, dashing hopes of a smooth transition to democracy for the nuclear-armed nation."

We better keep an eye on this guy, he already got nuke's, and so do india. So much for trying to be the good guy. Truthfully, I never liked the guy.

"A leopard cannot change his spots"

The great thing about Musharraf is that he is strong and his opponents are weak. With Islamist's in his backyard you want a guy like Musharraf. The other option is a weakling who will rollover and flee the country allowing the Islamists to have it all, including the nukes. Now you tell me what the better, 'realistic' option is?

This is exactly what we need to completely undo all that has been started in Afghanistan. If you think it's bad with the cooperation (or lack thereof...) we're getting from the current Pak government wait until you see what happens when a nuclear power becomes unstable and incapable of controlling border activities.

Understand that if the newly returned Benazir Bhutto gets a consensus of moderates and liberals in Pakistan and they actually DO get to hold an election... the ultra conservatives
like Al Queda & Taliban/Wahnabi Sect types will go absolutely ballistic. They HATED Ms Bhutto when SHE was the PAKISTANI
PM !
Here is the litmus test for the future of the Moslem states in that region. If Musharraf allows things to gradually transcend, he'll be out of a job and he KNOWS it !

When you say transcend, I infer improve.And if he is out of a job BFD.On one hand he is responsible for the nukes which he knows all too well.And, on the other hand we dont need another ally turned despot clinging to power.

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we dont need another ally turned despot clinging to power.

An estimated 30 nuclear weapons aboard delivery devices with launch codes.

Now Folks, you know we have our fingers in this too, I mean, how could we be sure that the next Pakistani President would be as "cooperative" as this one?
Don't fool yourselves, Bush and the CIA are in this up to their Necks if not further.