Check These Out: Buddy Finder | Videos | SpouseBUZZ | My Friend Network | News | Military Equipment


Military.com    Military.com Forums  Hop To Forum Categories  Hot Topics & Current Events  Hop To Forums  In the News    DoD Giving Turkey Intel on Kurd Rebels
Page 1 2 
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
  Login/Join 
Member
Posted
 
Posts: 410 | Registered: Mon 09 May 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
heh...I was like " Whats Turkey Intel Confused?"
 
Posts: 271 | Registered: Tue 21 November 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Banned by admin
Posted Hide Post
bad move we need to stand away from this... latest intell have it at 3000 pkk members.... who are only terrorizing those that are and have been oppressing them for 2000years.... but the majority of kurds are good people that just want to be left alone and to live life as free people.... we should pressure turkey to stop oppressing the kurds...
 
Posts: 39661 | Registered: Thu 18 August 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
The Iraqi Kurds need to lay the smackdown on the PKK in Iraq and help Turkey secure the border. Last week the Iraqi government told the PKK to leave the country and took steps to shut down their offices in northern Iraq. They had offices!?!?!?! They're terrorist group that's putting all of the Iraqi Kurds at risk.
 
Posts: 1248 | Registered: Thu 11 October 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
New Member
Posted Hide Post
Good move, actually. This way we:1)help Turkey get the bastards that killed their troops; 2) give them the best intel where their abducted soldiers may be; and lastly, 3) minimize collatoral damage to those Kurds allied with us. The PKK should be eradicated without hurting our interests in the region.
 
Posts: 150 | Registered: Mon 12 March 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Picture of T_TGrowler
Posted Hide Post
Do you guys know where the Ottoman empire was or Kurdistan or for that matter where Turkey is? Ignorance is bliss.
 
Posts: 1504 | Registered: Sat 18 November 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Experienced Member
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by outlaws93:
bad move we need to stand away from this... latest intell have it at 3000 pkk members.... who are only terrorizing those that are and have been oppressing them for 2000years.... but the majority of kurds are good people that just want to be left alone and to live life as free people.... we should pressure turkey to stop oppressing the kurds...



Usually agree with a lot of your prose but the next poster seems to have it right. There are Kurds and then there are Kurds. Seems the only PKK are doing the damage whereas the other, PUK are minding the store. Polls in the middle east also figure it to be a Turkey Iraq problem.
 
Posts: 5039 | Registered: Sat 20 October 2001Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
New Member
Posted Hide Post
The Turks have been after the Kurds for years. The US needs to stay out of it.

Besides some of these same Kurds helped the US. Nice people, will fight with them again.
 
Posts: 3 | Registered: Thu 28 August 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by outlaws93:
bad move we need to stand away from this... latest intell have it at 3000 pkk members.... who are only terrorizing those that are and have been oppressing them for 2000years.... but the majority of kurds are good people that just want to be left alone and to live life as free people.... we should pressure turkey to stop oppressing the kurds...


I believe we'll be alright with the Kurds since they themselves have no liking for the PKK. If that changes of course, then we need to stand down.
 
Posts: 1292 | Registered: Wed 01 February 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Banned by admin
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by rayevinsonsr:
quote:
Originally posted by outlaws93:
bad move we need to stand away from this... latest intell have it at 3000 pkk members.... who are only terrorizing those that are and have been oppressing them for 2000years.... but the majority of kurds are good people that just want to be left alone and to live life as free people.... we should pressure turkey to stop oppressing the kurds...



Usually agree with a lot of your prose but the next poster seems to have it right. There are Kurds and then there are Kurds. Seems the only PKK are doing the damage whereas the other, PUK are minding the store. Polls in the middle east also figure it to be a Turkey Iraq problem.


well i for one would be pissed if me and mine were oppressed for 2000 years i too would take drastic measures to defend my home.... funny that the pkk lets the press go with them on training maneuvers.... and even state that they are oppressed and fighting for their freedom.... like i said the kurds just want to be left alone and live as free people....
 
Posts: 39661 | Registered: Thu 18 August 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Picture of T_TGrowler
Posted Hide Post
Thr Kurds inhabit parts of Iran,Iraq,Turkey and Syria none of them wanting to give them autonomy this goes all the way back to WWII when the middle east was carved up and no one thought about the Kurds then and they are a big pain to all those countries listed above but this is not going to go away more than likely get worse.
 
Posts: 1504 | Registered: Sat 18 November 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
New Member
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by jagdbaer:
Good move, actually. This way we:1)help Turkey get the bastards that killed their troops; 2) give them the best intel where their abducted soldiers may be; and lastly, 3) minimize collatoral damage to those Kurds allied with us. The PKK should be eradicated without hurting our interests in the region.


jag,

Good one! Let's hope someone well above our paygrade reads your points.

Mustang
 
Posts: 211 | Registered: Mon 19 March 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Banned by admin
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by T_TGrowler:
Thr Kurds inhabit parts of Iran,Iraq,Turkey and Syria none of them wanting to give them autonomy this goes all the way back to WWII when the middle east was carved up and no one thought about the Kurds then and they are a big pain to all those countries listed above but this is not going to go away more than likely get worse.


even farther 65bc is when kurdastine was broken up...
 
Posts: 39661 | Registered: Thu 18 August 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by outlaws93:
quote:
Originally posted by T_TGrowler:
Thr Kurds inhabit parts of Iran,Iraq,Turkey and Syria none of them wanting to give them autonomy this goes all the way back to WWII when the middle east was carved up and no one thought about the Kurds then and they are a big pain to all those countries listed above but this is not going to go away more than likely get worse.


even farther 65bc is when kurdastine was broken up...


http://www.infoplease.com/spot/kurds3.html

"7th Century The Kurds are conquered by the Arabs, beginning centuries of living under the rule of others. Their land is later occupied by the Seljuk Turks, the Mongols, the Safavid dynasty, and, beginning in the late 13th century, the Ottoman Empire.

1920 At the conclusion of World War I, the Ottoman Empire collapses. The Treaty of Sèvres proposes a division of the Ottoman Empire and its territory that includes an autonomous homeland for the Kurds. The treaty, however, is ultimately rejected.

1923 Turkey is recognized as an independent nation, and the Treaty of Lausanne is signed, replacing the Treaty of Sèvres. Under its terms, Turkey is no longer obligated to grant Kurdish autonomy. The treaty divides the Kurdish region among Turkey, Iraq, and Syria."
 
Posts: 1248 | Registered: Thu 11 October 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Picture of T_TGrowler
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by outlaws93:
quote:
Originally posted by T_TGrowler:
Thr Kurds inhabit parts of Iran,Iraq,Turkey and Syria none of them wanting to give them autonomy this goes all the way back to WWII when the middle east was carved up and no one thought about the Kurds then and they are a big pain to all those countries listed above but this is not going to go away more than likely get worse.


even farther 65bc is when kurdastine was broken up...

Well I don't know the dates but ok! The thing is these are some tough SOB's and they have fought Turkey and Saddam for 20 plus years they will not be crushed so easily especialy in the terrain they inhabit
 
Posts: 1504 | Registered: Sat 18 November 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Picture of T_TGrowler
Posted Hide Post
I think if they were given self rule like what is going on in Iraq they would lay down their arms, there is supposed to be 3000 of them but I bet there are a lot more than that!
 
Posts: 1504 | Registered: Sat 18 November 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Banned by admin
Posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by T_TGrowler:
I think if they were given self rule like what is going on in Iraq they would lay down their arms, there is supposed to be 3000 of them but I bet there are a lot more than that!


well there were 10-15000 of them but the other day as i was watching a report about them they said 3000.... they are very friendly with the press and lets them tag along on training maneuvers... and your right if turkey would stop oppressing them they would lay down their arms...
 
Posts: 39661 | Registered: Thu 18 August 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Picture of T_TGrowler
Posted Hide Post
Goodnight OUTLAW it is always a pleasure conversing with you, God Bless.
 
Posts: 1504 | Registered: Sat 18 November 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Banned by admin
Posted Hide Post
good night my friend...
 
Posts: 39661 | Registered: Thu 18 August 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Member
Posted Hide Post
As I've said for soooo many years, these people in that region of the world have been at war with each other for over 10,000 years! The 'reason's why' don't matter, the only thing that does matter is THEY AIN'T GONNA STOP, not now and probably not ever!

Insanity is best defined as making the same mistake over and over again expecting a different result! Ladies, in this lifetime there ain't ever gonna be a different result in that part of the world, probably due to the fact the Gene Pool is so corrupted with interbreeding! All the other reason's for this lunatic war in Iraq aside, I believe most of this trouble is due to the exceptionally high degree of homosexuality, interbreeding, poverty and illiteracy combined with a concentration power held by religious nut jobs!

That my friends defines the problem, so the answer is either stay the hell away from these people and let them continue to kill themselves (which I'm in favor of) or kill em all (which I am NOT in favor of)! But, to stay there knowing they aren't gonna stop fighting with each other is 100% insane on our part!

So, my only question is; "How long will it take us to wake up to the fact that no matter what we do we won't have any effect on the people in the Middle East as to how they conduct themselves fighting with and killing each other?"
 
Posts: 252 | Registered: Wed 08 August 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
  Powered by Eve Community Page 1 2  
 

Military.com    Military.com Forums  Hop To Forum Categories  Hot Topics & Current Events  Hop To Forums  In the News    DoD Giving Turkey Intel on Kurd Rebels

© 2009 Military Advantage, Inc.