Well apparently the Air Force isn't alone in having inattentive servicemen who can't follow instuctions. I heard nuke sub duty was very demanding and difficult to get assigned to, but it appears that even the "best" screw up....
Of all escape mechanisms, Death is the most efficient. ~~ H.L. Mencken
"Other members of the squadron discovered the lapse during a routine examination required as part of the redundancy built into the system so that problems are caught, he said."
Snitches... not that that's a bad thing of course...
Originally posted by Holynotsomuch: "Other members of the squadron discovered the lapse during a routine examination required as part of the redundancy built into the system so that problems are caught, he said."
Snitches... not that that's a bad thing of course...
Reporting a discrepancy when it deals with nukes is not snitching. It is doing your duty.
ADM Rickover must be turning over in his grave. This is unheard of in the nuclear navy, bet the CO and ENG both get relieved. Gundecking records - amazing.
Kind of makes me wonder what is next? Air Farce flying nukes over the populated areas of this Country and now Navy not checking for nuke radioactivity in a sub. What next a nuclear meltdown of an Aircraft carrier? This is getting well beyond funny. Making false reports can cause serious accidents. Where was the Nuclear officer and NCO?
I heard nuke sub duty was very demanding and difficult to get assigned to
I'm pretty sure all you have to do is volunteer for it.The demanding part is getting your dolphins (qualifying ss).If you dont you're gone.As far as gundecking checks/procedures and paperwork goes.....someone is going to burn for sure.
I heard rumors of sailors smuggling drugs in the reactor rooms back in the '70's. Even met a sailor who'd been removed from a ship (or sub? can't remember)for his heroin addiction. This was prior to the EA-6B Nimitz crash that served as a catalyst for the clean-out of the services.
This recent lapse makes me pretty mad. Marines and soldiers are getting shot and blown up every day, and sailors in atomic powered air conditioning are too lazy to make sure the reactor is safe?
it would seem to me that those nukes should be burned by a court martial and the captn gets the ax as well its his job to know whats going on--by the way wherewas the chief of the boat during this
william russell gmt1(medically retired) antmotive@yahoo.com
I feel that Court Martials, instead of non-judical punishment, if for nothing else, falsifying records. The Captain and Weapons officers shoud also be on the chopping block. What the hell is going on with these folks?
I would not be surprised if it turned out that the officer, who was most directly responsible for the reactor, has been poorly trained or motivated. The diligence of the NCOs and specialists will inevitably start to reflect the professionalism and diligence of their commander.
Originally posted by Schistosome: gundecking logs.... the captain is also responsible for this happening on his watch. He is bad as well, hang them all from the yard arm
Hang from the "yard arm"? Gee, I don't think that we do that anymore! Keel hauling, I don't think we do that either... Hmm, are there any yard arms left in the Navy? LOL Respectfully, SUNLINER81
The difference between the Navy and the Air Force, is that the Navy caught the mistake itself as part of it's routine safety checks, seems the entire system broke down in the U.S.A.F.! Not knocking the U.S.A.F., though it sounds like it, the point being multiple steps were violated with nuclear weapons, this was a very small group of maintenance technicians pencil whipping daily inspections AND GOT CAUGHT BY THE SYSTEM, LIKE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE! THE SYSTEM WORKED! WHEREAS IN THE U.S.A.F., IT WAS DISCOVERED AS AN ACCIDENT ON AN UNGUARDED AIRCRFT!!! Respectfully, SUNLINER81
Yes, the AF system broke down but it was also caught when someone decided to do their job correctly. Let's not try to embellish what happened in the AF situation and downplay the Navy incident. The Navy SNAFU took a month to be uncovered. Both are indicative of a breakdown in discipline and standards and neither should be sugar coated in hindsight (i.e. "a very small group of maintainers..." "the system worked" blah blah blah)
Originally posted by DSkidmore: Yes, the AF system broke down but it was also caught when someone decided to do their job correctly. Let's not try to embellish what happened in the AF situation and downplay the Navy incident. The Navy SNAFU took a month to be uncovered. Both are indicative of a breakdown in discipline and standards and neither should be sugar coated in hindsight (i.e. "a very small group of maintainers..." "the system worked" blah blah blah)
Morning Daniel, welcome and thank you for serving!
Salute!!!!!!!!!
I will not embellish or discount. What I will tell you is what is going to happen.
The skipper, XO, Engineering Officer and Nuc Power plant Officer have just "nuked" their careers. Someone (four someones) in Khaki was asleep at the wheel and they will suffer a loss of career. Additionaly at least one Chief and all hands who were involved in "gun-decking" logs will be punsihed. If Rickover were still alive and in charge they would get even worse.
