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RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,150560,00.html
I thought we worked this one over well yesterday?  Many branches but one brotherhood! |
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I'm all for it. I say bait 'em with food or money. If they pick it up - blast em then run their head over with a tank.
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Does that not remind you of the SS, Gestapo, or KGB tactics?
Thanks to the press this stuff takes the headlines. Not what really matters......... Civilian casualties are a shame, but a fact of war! Get the friggin press outta there and let soldiers do their job! |
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alwaythesoidiernotthemtellmethat
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ME TO. I still like the sentance, "The Army has declined to confirm such a program exists" which speaks volumes IMHO |
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Never in any LOAC class have I been told that I can't bait a kill zone. Anyone who's not guilty won't pick up the bait.
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YES, war is exciting for young people and psychpaths.
Most of us mature and see the unacceptable moral cost of war except in self defense. Killing is like drugs: the first is a high, but then you want continuing fixes. Those to blame are not the PFCs, the Cpls, the Sgts, or even the LTs. It is the leaders right to the top who placed those young men and women in place and ordered them to kill. There are physical casualties, mental casualties, and in this case potential judicial casualties. It is unfortunate that charges do not start at the top and flow down the chain-of-command. One of my favorite movies which illustrates this is PATHS OF GLORY with Kirk Douglas.   |
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I must be going out of my mind, or I'm getting ready to have the Big One..
I found myself agreeing with part/most of Helez's post.  |
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For God sake, Give this soldier a metal for what he done and let him go and get some more. All of our soldiers should be like this man.This is why we are in this position over there is because we don't let our soldiers do what they are trained to do. Wake up America.
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Bait a kill zone? Are they treating the enemy like I used to growing up hunting cayotees? Bait an area with things like AKs or det cords sounds good at first. But when you think about it, a strange package may contain food or valuables the civilians think they could trade for money. Getting the wrong prey into a poor(yet good idea) trap.
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This soldier was using the tools to "git er done" bravo to he and his brothers..We were told by superiors we did not question, that is basic soldier logic.
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Say what? |
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Same here...  |
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Why don't they send the media to fight the war
since they know it all, and they can write about it too, we are soldiers trained to fight and protect the freedom you enjoy, |
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Now you think you're a psychiatrist! You don't have a clue of what real combat is all about. You especially have no clue about what it is like to be in Iraq or Afghanistan. Therefore, I feel you should keep your piehole closed on the subject. It annoys me of how many chairbourne rangers post here. These people go off to war to fight a battle that our country has ordered them to and then because they do something wrong they get prosecuted. Utter nonsense. Barring a action that we would find criminal here in the states such as rape, murder, robbery, etc., but, this is not murder these are collateral damage during time of war. Anyone who goes after these people are un-American. |
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"Defend The Defenders"
When I read this story - I thought "another defender of our country that was being court- marshalled." I'm thinking about Illario Pantanio the Marine who after 9/11 inlisted again. He felt it was his duty. He was found innocent. And after the whole ordeal - someone in his unit had lied and all of his lies came out in the open. Interestingly the false accuser did not suffer any discipline except I believe he got an dishonorable discharge. He should have been charged with treason and done the time he tried to force on another marine. This all happened because the liar was a slacker and didn't like being told so. Also because of this lie - Illario Pantano received threats from the terrorist - he received emails from the terrorist with threats against him and his family. So he had to get out and stay here to protect his family. We lost a good defender of our country due to the one lie of a slacker. How many more defenders are we going to lose? Is this story about a defender a lie? I don't know but we should absolutely give this soldier a Innocent Until Proven Guilty. Defendourdefenders.com This message has been edited. Last edited by: Naunie, |
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Amen! War is War - If our military were released to do what they need to do to win this war it would be over. We cannot put political correctness on our troops. They are there to win the war not be targets for terrorist or targets for those who do not understand WAR. War is not a game! |
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I have to agree with Helez, but I would go one step further. The people thatalways get punished are the ones doing the dirty jobs, The cpls, the sgts, staff NCO's etc. The people who order them to do these things almost never get punished, your Senior officers, Feild grade and above. This is an exact mirror of our countries corporations. The workers get punished, the power elite get the rewards. Personally having been a scout/ sniper in the Marine Corps, I am alfor the baiting of the enemy. I would go one step further and draw up a profile , anyone matching that profile in my area of operations, gets their 72 virgins and their milk and honey,no questions asked. But thats just me.
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Get a grip Cdr. and while you're at it go take your meds, I think you forgot them this morning. Try taking your time and re-reading his post. I don't think he said anything about "going after" the snuffies.. |
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ROFL. I was thinking the same thing. But we as a nation are better than that. We need to kick the press out and then maybe we can get some progress. |
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