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OH YES ! It is "news" in the of frustration, confussion, and irresponsibility of the apathetic milieu of apathy and scapegoating eminating from the White House.
One hideous example is SECDEF stating the present rotation schedule is just fine for the troops. We need a change of motivation starting at the chair behind the desk in the Oval Office !  |
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It's like the border with Mexico, only worse, and don't think it can ever be manned completely effectively. As the article pointed out, there are routes that have been used by people for thousands of years. You're not going to stop that in a hurry if, we could ever find out where they all are. Some of them I suspect are closely guarded family secrets, especially if they're ancient smuggling routes. So, it's just a question of doing the best we can in the circumstances knowing it will never be perfect. That's a good description of life as a whole, isn't it? And again, as my friend above has pointed out, "This is news?"
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Well Helez, that will happen in January '09 whatever happens in the rest of the world. Then, maybe, we'll see some new, creative thinking and maybe then negotiations can start to clear up the mess left behind. Think that's the only hope most of us can cling on to in an ever worsening situation. I know they tell us it's getting better, but can't see how myself, but no doubt somebody will tell me if we just keep on keeping on and stay the course, and get with the program, it will all turn out just fine and dandy in the end. |
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Signs?
X-ray machines? Watchtowers? Whatever happened to Jersey barriers and minefields? Wasn't there an article a few years ago regarding UAV's for Iran/Iraq border surveillance? Why the free flow of personnel and vehicles, at all? This sounds like a duplication of our domestic failures to secure our southern border. |
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 Are we aware yet?  Stupid ragheads only know how to tie explosives to themselves and frag US troops. I, also, bet WE are paying the troops from Georgia, ex-USSR, to sit around farting to the wall.  |
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this is really ironic. we can't even secure our borders with Mexico and Canada - two relatively peaceful, democratic countries.
i truly feel for the troops to have to train the iraqis for security. seems like linear thinking is in short supply. |
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We can't/won't secure our own border with Mexico. Why would make anyone with half a brain think we could secure the Iran/Iraq border!!!!
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Because of the civilian casualties. |
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I'm just surprised Helez is available today. I would have thought he would be at Columbia University supporting Ahmadinejad's visit and taking in his gems of wisdom. He and Leekujawa should carpool...
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This is a time of political correctness...minefields work like a charm but might actually hurt someone.
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Raghead is a ethnic slur, and against the TOS. I suggest you knock it off. "Never try to teach a pig to sing; It wastes your time and annoys the pig." - Heinlein |
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Actually, the Iraqis are terrified of the Azerbijani troops. Their reputation was not gained by hanging out at the chow hall. |
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Sounds like your describing the border with Mexico. When you say "only worse" I disagree slightly. Granted Mexico is not shipping bombs over here. What we are getting is higher insurance costs, 1/3 of our jails are filled with immigrants, illegals using our social programs, drivers lisences from my great state of Oregon, disease like TB, not paying taxes, etc... etc... And last but certainly not least is crime  . Like I said we aren't getting bombs from Mexico, we are getting crime like, drunk driving deaths, gang violence, execution style murders (see Newark New Jersey), killing cops, killing 15 year old girls by stepping on there neck when they say no to sex, by the way it took two and was in Portland's back yard! I know that the bombs from Iran are killing our soldiers, which in my eyes is an act of war!! Our border with Mexico is no safer IMHO! While some of the bleeding hearts on here will say, "most of them come here to support there families and make a better life". I say BS to that! If the trade off for them making a better life is even one of our nations children being killed, it's a bad deal!! If they weren't here how many people would be alive? I also like it when people say " they do the jobs Americans won't do". Really? Ask the people who work in construction like I do. |
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AMEN!!!!
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DAMN NOUS, you just took my words!!! I 100% agree with you, but I think we got some DUMB DUMBS that think we can control a border that is twice as big as ours. what a shame
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Morning Guys and Dolls,
Heres an idea, turn over the boarder area to Blackwater, this might prove interesting. TP, GL, GM check out my personal area, I finely figured out how to post pictures. |
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How does one post pictures? I too slow to figure it out for myself. |
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If a tree falls in a forest and lands on a politician, even if you can't hear the tree or the screams, I'll bet you'd at least hear the applause. Paul Tindale  |
Seems everybody wants the US to do everything in this war. Why can't we "secure" the borders? Simple; economics. ! You can build a wall and they will find a way over, around, or under. Put in a mote, and they will find a way to bridge it. Put in land mines, electronic surveillance and all the wiz-bang gadgets and you have; bankruptcy!
No amount of money and barriers will keep everyone out. Need to concentrate on critical items first. First, get the Iraqis off their a$$ and put them up front. Then used roving and unmanned surveillance further back from the borders.. Use go teams instead of the hunker in a bunker, round up the wagons; we are going to build a fort mentality. The border is long. Minefields and other surveillance equipment to be used on those areas that are relatively impassable (For wheeled equipment that is. There is no such thing as “impassable” to a determined individual). We can not do everything, and we should not. If the Iraqis cannot accomplish this mission, they deserve to be overrun. Have a good day!~!  |
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Once again, you failed to see the good news in the story, TP ... we have long established that all the problems in Iraq are the result of a few bad apples, and they clearly have a handle on that problem.
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