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Originally posted by popsiq:
RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,150083,00.htmL

The Iraqis think they'd have difficulty getting Blackwater out of Iraq? Hasn't anybody told them yet?

And you! You need to get the heck out of this country if all you're going to do is bad mouth the hell out of it.

Iraq will be occupied until the oil's gone. Blackwater and other business interests will be protected under 'Iraqi law'. But I don't think it will ever be safe for a coffee downtown.

Maliki's government - can one spell Quisling, or Petain- although I think he'd quit if he thought so.

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Originally posted by rkgtactical:
Blackwater is one of the best over the counter military operatives the U.S. has going over there. Without Blackwater, our military would be forced into pulling those operations that they are willing to perform. It is bad enough that our military has been forced into being a police force in that country. Why make them do bodyguard work and corporate security as well.

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Originally posted by rkgtactical:

And you! You need to get the heck out of this country if all you're going to do is bad mouth the hell out of it.

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Originally posted by 7384400:
It seems to me that the Blackwater personal are using realistic “Rules of Engagement”.
They are in, what is still a war zone, and they are doing they’re job as well as defending themselves.
Our troops should follow their lead

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Originally posted by oldmole:

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Originally posted by 7384400:
It seems to me that the Blackwater personal are using realistic “Rules of Engagement”.
They are in, what is still a war zone, and they are doing they’re job as well as defending themselves.
Our troops should follow their lead

With all due respect, that is utter nonsense. All the reports I have heard say that the incident in Baghdad ran for about twenty minutes ... which is entirely too long for a strictly protection mission. At the first signs of taking fire, their duty to the people they were protecting would have been to get out of Dodge as rapidly as possible.

You take the very popular, and completely misguided idea that ROEs for our forces in country are too restrictive. One more time you need to be reminded that it isn't our country! Iraqis take it personally when their civilians get shot up, and don't take our good intentions as sufficient to cover the occasional disaster like this one.

From all reports, this is hardly the first time that Blackwater has run afoul of the Maliki government ... they are now being specifically implicated in the prison breakout of an Iraqi official held in joint Iraqi-US custody for embezzling 2.5 billion dollars. A drunk Blackwater employee shot the bodyguard of an Iraqi vice president, and was spirited out of the country afterwards. They are now also being implicated into smuggling arms into the country that have ended up in the hands of insurgents.

They were a temporary band-aid solution in a conflict that we didn't expect to last nearly this long. They need to get phased out, and replaced if necessary by an expansion of the Diplomatic Security Service http://www.state.gov/m/ds/ if we need to have this level of protection on a more or less permanent basis.

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Originally posted by smokey5:

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Originally posted by oldmole:

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Originally posted by 7384400:
It seems to me that the Blackwater personal are using realistic “Rules of Engagement”.
They are in, what is still a war zone, and they are doing they’re job as well as defending themselves.
Our troops should follow their lead

With all due respect, that is utter nonsense. All the reports I have heard say that the incident in Baghdad ran for about twenty minutes ... which is entirely too long for a strictly protection mission. At the first signs of taking fire, their duty to the people they were protecting would have been to get out of Dodge as rapidly as possible.

You take the very popular, and completely misguided idea that ROEs for our forces in country are too restrictive. One more time you need to be reminded that it isn't our country! Iraqis take it personally when their civilians get shot up, and don't take our good intentions as sufficient to cover the occasional disaster like this one.

From all reports, this is hardly the first time that Blackwater has run afoul of the Maliki government ... they are now being specifically implicated in the prison breakout of an Iraqi official held in joint Iraqi-US custody for embezzling 2.5 billion dollars. A drunk Blackwater employee shot the bodyguard of an Iraqi vice president, and was spirited out of the country afterwards. They are now also being implicated into smuggling arms into the country that have ended up in the hands of insurgents.

They were a temporary band-aid solution in a conflict that we didn't expect to last nearly this long. They need to get phased out, and replaced if necessary by an expansion of the Diplomatic Security Service http://www.state.gov/m/ds/ if we need to have this level of protection on a more or less permanent basis.

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With all due respect, your comments are BS.

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Originally posted by 8015268:
Bush is full of S--T!!! He was to big of a coward to join the US Military. If his two daughters and Cheneys's daughter was over there you can bet you sweet *** that this war would be ran different!!!

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Originally posted by 13114676:
hoo rah
best post yet

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Originally posted by smokey5:

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Originally posted by oldmole:

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Originally posted by 7384400:
It seems to me that the Blackwater personal are using realistic “Rules of Engagement”.
They are in, what is still a war zone, and they are doing they’re job as well as defending themselves.
Our troops should follow their lead

With all due respect, that is utter nonsense. All the reports I have heard say that the incident in Baghdad ran for about twenty minutes ... which is entirely too long for a strictly protection mission. At the first signs of taking fire, their duty to the people they were protecting would have been to get out of Dodge as rapidly as possible.

You take the very popular, and completely misguided idea that ROEs for our forces in country are too restrictive. One more time you need to be reminded that it isn't our country! Iraqis take it personally when their civilians get shot up, and don't take our good intentions as sufficient to cover the occasional disaster like this one.

From all reports, this is hardly the first time that Blackwater has run afoul of the Maliki government ... they are now being specifically implicated in the prison breakout of an Iraqi official held in joint Iraqi-US custody for embezzling 2.5 billion dollars. A drunk Blackwater employee shot the bodyguard of an Iraqi vice president, and was spirited out of the country afterwards. They are now also being implicated into smuggling arms into the country that have ended up in the hands of insurgents.

They were a temporary band-aid solution in a conflict that we didn't expect to last nearly this long. They need to get phased out, and replaced if necessary by an expansion of the Diplomatic Security Service http://www.state.gov/m/ds/ if we need to have this level of protection on a more or less permanent basis.

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With all due respect, your comments are BS.

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Originally posted by BillSPrestonEsq:

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Originally posted by 8015268:
Bush is full of S--T!!! He was to big of a coward to join the US Military. If his two daughters and Cheneys's daughter was over there you can bet you sweet *** that this war would be ran different!!!

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