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If this town won't support our soldiers, then to HELL with them. I hope the town dries up and blows away. Bet they would be the first to cry HELP from the military if a natural disaster leveled the town or a terrorist attack happened there. Little chance of that since they seem to lean in favor of the terroists.

This is liberal ignorance at its peak!
 
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"Calvin Muse, one of a handful of residents who recently urged councilors to remove the ribbons, acknowledged he has been critical of the Bush administration, but said his argument about the ordinance is based firmly on the rule of law.

"There are better ways to get your beliefs out than to break laws and force your personal agendas on a town," Muse said. "

Riiiight.... I'll bet if he wanted to force his personal agenda on a town, Muse wouldn't hesitate to break laws...And, I'm sure he is an upstanding citizen who has never violated the "rule of law". Not even once, as he speeds to get his latte with his cell phone to his ear, rolling through stop signs, etc.
Hypocrites.
 
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A side from the political "agenda" comments that were said. I can see the point from both sides. It is great to see people supporting those that willing go into harms way be they Military, Police Officers, Firefighters ect. But where is it that someone should determine the "too much" point? The ribbons do deteriorate over time and will look like crap. Atleast the city is planning to create a war memorial to honor those that have fallen in combat. Perhapse they can also include the names of the people from that town that have became apart of the Honored Dead. This way they will be immortalized unlike the ribbons.
 
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Actually, I find this article a bit inspiring ... a local community working to find a compromise that respects sacrifice but without a political flavor. I would hope the media would leave them alone to work it out among themselves ... but it doesn't look like that is happening. Anything for a story.
 
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HANG CALVIN MUSE BY HIS B@LL$
 
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RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,145177,00.html

If this town won't support our soldiers, then to HELL with them. I hope the town dries up and blows away. Bet they would be the first to cry HELP from the military if a natural disaster leveled the town or a terrorist attack happened there. Little chance of that since they seem to lean in favor of the terroists.

This is liberal ignorance at its peak!


Typical kneejerk reaction from people looking for something to complain about.

This has NOTHING to do with the war there is a PREEXISTING law banning ribbons, posters etc. From article
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South Portland, Swiger has pressed the city to change an ordinance that bans ribbons, posters and other items from public property.

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The debate resurfaced in late March after two South Portland High School graduates - Sgt. Swiger and Marine Lance Cpl. Angel Rosa - were killed within a span of two weeks. As part of the community response, city councilors voted unanimously to allow the ribbons to be posted anywhere in the city for a month. Little was said in opposition to that decision.

But the deadline of April 27 came and went, and the ribbons remained. Three months passed. When some ribbons fell or became too weathered, new ones appeared in their places.


In place of the illegal ribbons the city is creating a veterans memorial.
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The sides will work together to create a permanent memorial to honor all the city's veterans,
 
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Originally posted by GeneSchubeck:
"Calvin Muse, one of a handful of residents who recently urged councilors to remove the ribbons, acknowledged he has been critical of the Bush administration, but said his argument about the ordinance is based firmly on the rule of law.

"There are better ways to get your beliefs out than to break laws and force your personal agendas on a town," Muse said. "

Riiiight.... I'll bet if he wanted to force his personal agenda on a town, Muse wouldn't hesitate to break laws...And, I'm sure he is an upstanding citizen who has never violated the "rule of law". Not even once, as he speeds to get his latte with his cell phone to his ear, rolling through stop signs, etc.
Hypocrites.


AMEN
 
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I agree that no one should be above the law, but i don't see how a few ribbons in honor of our fallen veterans is hurting anyone. The central location of a memorial sounds like the right choice. I don't believe the meeting that was held in private was a "negotiation", as i am sure the city could take down the ribbons without the mothers consent.
 
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I wish my town had a ban on signs and posters put on publc property, good God it would make things much prettier. This is a good exapmle of people working together to resolve an issue and improve things. A dedicated Memorial will be much better than old faded ribbons hanging on telephone poles.
 
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Whatever! Do you work for the ACLU or something? You know exactly what the message is pertaining to this move!
Shameful! I have never heard of a conservative group or organization doing this! Explain that!
And people wonder why the military has such a strong disdain for liberals! It's garbage like that, as well as those on the left!
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Originally posted by 6159683:
RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,145177,00.html

If this town won't support our soldiers, then to HELL with them. I hope the town dries up and blows away. Bet they would be the first to cry HELP from the military if a natural disaster leveled the town or a terrorist attack happened there. Little chance of that since they seem to lean in favor of the terroists.

This is liberal ignorance at its peak!


Typical kneejerk reaction from people looking for something to complain about.

This has NOTHING to do with the war there is a PREEXISTING law banning ribbons, posters etc. From article
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South Portland, Swiger has pressed the city to change an ordinance that bans ribbons, posters and other items from public property.

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The debate resurfaced in late March after two South Portland High School graduates - Sgt. Swiger and Marine Lance Cpl. Angel Rosa - were killed within a span of two weeks. As part of the community response, city councilors voted unanimously to allow the ribbons to be posted anywhere in the city for a month. Little was said in opposition to that decision.

But the deadline of April 27 came and went, and the ribbons remained. Three months passed. When some ribbons fell or became too weathered, new ones appeared in their places.


In place of the illegal ribbons the city is creating a veterans memorial.
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The sides will work together to create a permanent memorial to honor all the city's veterans,
 
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The article can fire you up but also inspire you that two side can possibly work together. But however, the memorial will be nice for the fallen but what about the troops over there fighting. Nothing wrong with a display of yellow ribbons.
 
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Whatever! Do you work for the ACLU or something? You know exactly what the message is pertaining to this move!
Shameful! I have never heard of a conservative group or organization doing this! Explain that!
And people wonder why the military has such a strong disdain for liberals! It's garbage like that, as well as those on the left!

Which Ideas are you quoteing as bad? The initial post or the responce to them?
 
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The article can fire you up but also inspire you that two side can possibly work together. But however, the memorial will be nice for the fallen but what about the troops over there fighting. Nothing wrong with a display of yellow ribbons.


I agree to a point, I don't mind the ribbons lord knows my mother is the champion of yellow ribbons, she has made thousands of them and passed them out, they pinned to your shirt.
But if they have a law against it, band together change the law. Not hard to do and can't imagine any politician voting against it. But I still like the no poster idea
 
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Originally posted by CannonsFront:
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Whatever! Do you work for the ACLU or something? You know exactly what the message is pertaining to this move!
Shameful! I have never heard of a conservative group or organization doing this! Explain that!
And people wonder why the military has such a strong disdain for liberals! It's garbage like that, as well as those on the left!

Which Ideas are you quoteing as bad? The initial post or the responce to them?


For AirborneInfrantry anything and anyone who is different than what he wants or disagrees with him in any way is bad.
 
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I am old fashion and like to see a display. We have both in the small town I live in.
I yester years (60s-70s)you did not see any display and their was alot of disrespect for soldiers.
 
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I am old fashion and like to see a display. We have both in the small town I live in.
I yester years (60s-70s)you did not see any display and their was alot of disrespect for soldiers.

Exactly, and in my humble opinion, a permanent memorial is a victory...not a defeat. It sometimes amazes me how some people can snatch defeat right out of the mouth of victory.
 
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Then, it is the right of every citizen to place a small yellow ribbon around a candle and sit it in the window sill, to show they still support the troops.

If the city were going to put up the ribbons... they should have changed their own ordinance to reflect their wishes.
 
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HANG CALVIN MUSE BY HIS B@LL$
He aint got none, thats the Problem in the first place.....
 
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Originally posted by Well_Seasoned:
Actually, I find this article a bit inspiring ... a local community working to find a compromise that respects sacrifice but without a political flavor. I would hope the media would leave them alone to work it out among themselves ... but it doesn't look like that is happening. Anything for a story.


I'm with you on this one, Colonel. While it is more fun to throw spitballs at the unprincipled disciples of Satan who have the temerity to disagree with you, and compromise takes actual work rather than an abundant supply of hot air, it does make for a less stressful community. Cool
 
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http://www.thestar.com/article/243112

A related story from the Toronto Star's Washington bureau correspondent. Is South Portland an isolated occurrence?
 
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