Seems simple enough to me. For every ROK ministry hostage they kill march out ten Taliban prisoners, lop off their heads, mutilate their bodies and scatter them over the country side. Much of the world doesn't think like the West or have our values. We need to stop acting like sheep, play hardball and start exterminating those bastards. That's what they understand.
Seems simple enough to me. For every ROK ministry hostage they kill march out ten Taliban prisoners, lop off their heads, mutilate their bodies and scatter them over the country side. Much of the world doesn't think like the West or have our values. We need to stop acting like sheep, play hardball and start exterminating those bastards. That's what they understand.
You seem to like the idea of "exterminating" humans. Are you by any chance wearing SS skulls on your collar?
These folks really want a "Holy" war against Crhistians. It's a war of culture, a pathetic sickening attempt to rope in every country on earth. All I can do sitting at this terminal is say a prayer for the kindehearted Koreans that tried to help the poor Afghani's and now are becoming martyrs of their faith. They're only weapons were medical equipment, their sword, the Bible.
I hope some spec Ops teams can locate and find them; killing ten to one, sounds soooo cool but it's not the answer. Attempts at changing a lifestyle/culture/ religion rooted in over a thousand years of indoctrination may never happen.
These guys are going to do what they want, no matter what is said or done. I feel for those captives and families. They went there to help knowing this was possible. It's in the hands of the Taliban now.
Nope, don't like seeing people getting killed no matter who they are. IMHO what we need to do is get off the oil kick and out of other people's affairs. Perhaps 911 happened at least in part b.c. we meddle around too much overseas.
As far as human rights goes - seems like we turn our heads away from lots of other places, like Africa--why? No oil there? Hmmmm...
I too feel for them, however it must be stated that IF we had not taken our focus off the Taliban IN Afghanistan, we could have crushed them for good. And IF we had the stones to get Osama where he is and has been for 5 years now, ad IF we had only ... IF, IF, IF.
The way to deal with this now, and in the long run, is to take back our nation (from those who feel some righteous inclination to destroy - not only the enemy in Afghanistan, but their friends and families too!), and re-energize it with a dedication to Freedom and Respect for all our fellow human beings, everywhere. We need to return to those times when we led by Example .
Then, nobody could use US us as an excuse to murder others.
Originally posted by sailparker: Nope, don't like seeing people getting killed no matter who they are. IMHO what we need to do is get off the oil kick and out of other people's affairs. Perhaps 911 happened at least in part b.c. we meddle around too much overseas.
As far as human rights goes - seems like we turn our heads away from lots of other places, like Africa--why? No oil there? Hmmmm...
Yes, well using your first 2 posts as a guide, please excuse me if I don't believe a word of that.
History has always proven that factions like the Taliban or Al Qaeda or Nazis fail. The reason is the premise they are fighting for is a myth. It is the imagination of the repressed and down trodden. It has nothing to do with Islam. The Taliban have convinced themselves of a fairy tale. Holding captives will fail, car bombs will fail. Eventually they will be more successful if they just all shot themselves in the head and put themselves out of their own misery or put down their mishandled weapons and become productive members of their own society.
As far as human rights goes - seems like we turn our heads away from lots of other places, like Africa--why? No oil there? Hmmmm...
By the way...? Most of the nations in the northern half of Africa, above the equator? They have Oil reserves... lots and lots of them, from Nigeria north into Egypt, and from Libya into Saudi Arabia, and beyond.
Originally posted by Weatherguesser: I too feel for them, however it must be stated that IF we had not taken our focus off the Taliban IN Afghanistan, we could have crushed them for good. And IF we had the stones to get Osama where he is and has been for 5 years now, ad IF we had only ... IF, IF, IF.
The way to deal with this now, and in the long run, is to take back our nation (from those who feel some righteous inclination to destroy - not only the enemy in Afghanistan, but their friends and families too!), and re-energize it with a dedication to Freedom and Respect for all our fellow human beings, everywhere. We need to return to those times when we led by Example .
Then, nobody could use US us as an excuse to murder others.
Eh ?
Next you'll be telling us it was American pilots that flew into the twin towers.
The Taliban is acting up because the Al Qaeda is getting the arse kicked in Iraq, you're half right. They have to have a front, some kind of success, to recruit for future human bombs. This is their success story.
As far as sailparker's idea of discourging the enemy by using *** for tat, it's not new. A guy by the name of Sherman did exactly that on his march to Savannah. The southern boys got tired of seeing farms burned, live stock ran off and food stuff going to the Yanks, so they would hang or shoot any Yankee they found doing it. Sherman gather his firing squads and shot southern prisoners for every Yank killed. Northern troops didn't like the idea but followed orders. Soon, the south stopped killing Yankee prisoners.
History has always proven that factions like the Taliban or Al Qaeda or Nazis fail.
I would say "most of the time", but certainly not during the midle 250-300 years of the Roman Empire, say after Julius Caesar?
Not good years, for Humankind. It failed too, for any number or reasons. But eventually it is likely that so too, shall we (historically speaking, that is).
A guy by the name of Sherman did exactly that on his march to Savannah. The southern boys got tired of seeing farms burned, live stock ran off and food stuff going to the Yanks, so they would hang or shoot any Yankee they found doing it. Sherman gather his firing squads and shot southern prisoners for every Yank killed. Northern troops didn't like the idea but followed orders. Soon, the south stopped killing Yankee prisoners.
That was maybe the most extreme over-explanation of a rather brutal yet still minor "episode" of that entire war. I have read several accounts of Sherman's March, but I never saw that story repeated, in quite that way.
As far as I am concerned there is no such thing as negotiating with a terrorist. If Korea does release the taliban prisoners who is to say the terrorist won't kill the Koreans anyway. Another thing we have to look at if those Taliban prisoners are released how many more lives will they take as suicide bombers? If we start killing the prisoners that may just make the Taliban go more nuts and drive them to do something more drastic. The best thing I say to do is do not back down and start staging a rescue operation.
Seems simple enough to me. For every ROK ministry hostage they kill march out ten Taliban prisoners, lop off their heads, mutilate their bodies and scatter them over the country side. Much of the world doesn't think like the West or have our values. We need to stop acting like sheep, play hardball and start exterminating those bastards. That's what they understand.
You seem to like the idea of "exterminating" humans. Are you by any chance wearing SS skulls on your collar?
Here's a news flash it's the Taliban that is doing the exterminating. I guess you don't get it. Always guessing.
Sometimes I just don't understand. We have a certain number of people that scream about the 'rights" and "treatment" of prisoners held at Gitmo, yet we see this Korean hostage situation, and much more, happening on the other side. This is not the first nor will it be the last. Sometimes I feel like this country has turning to a nation of suckers, lets play nice, wear a helmet, wash your hands, use a car seat, don't do this, don't do that, not safe, not clean, not healthy. Those people over there can't even spell Geneva Convention, let alone even think about adhering to it! I do not advocate unnecessary, cold blooded murder. I also do not advocate the peace and love, nice, nice approach either. Let's get real, this is a war, a war with an enemy that knows no bounds in terms of barbarism, human life is meaningless to them. I do not pretend to know the answer(s). I don't think anyone does, from George W on down. What I feel is anger and helplessness. America has gotten too soft heart, soft handed and addlepated. A show of strenght, turn about IS fair play.
If insults is your trade you're doing a great job. Making friends or putting new created idea's on paper is not.
Too late to kiss and make up. Sherman's march began in Tennessee, his first stop outside Atlanta where his troops burned the warehouses and wrecked railroad lines, it was the hub of the south. Besides reading the report of devastation his troops created, they also freed slaves along the way. Another reason for the rebels to give the war up and return home. It was on the History Channel a few months ago.
Neighbor of mine, now retired, was Senior Chief on the Forrestal the last port call in Jacksonville. He took us on a VIP tour and lunch. Mike now works at the port, must being boring to his former job of looking after traffic on the deck of this historic ship.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rayevinsonsr: Mr. No name.If insults is your trade you're doing a great job. Making friends or putting new created idea's on paper is not.
I believe Teddy Roosevelt may have had a view of what America would be like today.
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"The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." Teddy Roosevelt
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Originally posted by M1Hound: Sometimes I just don't understand. We have a certain number of people that scream about the 'rights" and "treatment" of prisoners held at Gitmo, yet we see this Korean hostage situation, and much more, happening on the other side. This is not the first nor will it be the last. Sometimes I feel like this country has turning to a nation of suckers, lets play nice, wear a helmet, wash your hands, use a car seat, don't do this, don't do that, not safe, not clean, not healthy. Those people over there can't even spell Geneva Convention, let alone even think about adhering to it! I do not advocate unnecessary, cold blooded murder. I also do not advocate the peace and love, nice, nice approach either. Let's get real, this is a war, a war with an enemy that knows no bounds in terms of barbarism, human life is meaningless to them. I do not pretend to know the answer(s). I don't think anyone does, from George W on down. What I feel is anger and helplessness. America has gotten too soft heart, soft handed and addlepated. A show of strenght, turn about IS fair play.
Might be a brutal tactic. But could work. For every hostage they kill we kill two to six captured insurgance prisoners. As for the media just claim the insurgence were escaping and obtained a weapon that was used to kill a gaurd.
