RE: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,144358,00.html

So, why is it after 4 years we haven't been trying to introduce a new/ better system into the Iraqi Logistics command? It should have been growing with the Military, oh, yeah, they didn't plan for that at the beginning. I forgot.
Yes, I understand the big push for Security forces, but you'd think somebody would have had the forethought of fixing this problem and developing a real Logistics Chain (hopefully a streamined version)since basicly every Military Unit lives or dies on it's Logistics...or at least History has shown.

They had no supply system, no NCO's had responsiblie for anything, no engineers, etc... even before the invasion. So why are people surprise by this.

Saddam's army was called the "4th largest army on the planet". So, why wouldn't we assume they had some sort of logistics in place?
But, just like the WMD issue, what Saddam showed the world, and what REALLY was, were two completely different things.
Of course, Bush should have seen this in his crystal ball (he IS all-knowing and all-seeing, isn't he?), since the HUMINT was castrated by Congressional budget cuts over the previous two decades.
How about some reverse-outsourcing? Iraq could hire all American maintenance companies.
Nah...our unions would prohibit that. They'd rather have illegals come here and join them (for the income base, the bosses need their kickbacks).
Seriously, a middle eastern nation that was under a dictatorial thumb for over 30 years is expected to instantly transition to western normalcy in a couple years?
Anybody that expects that is just an idiot sitting on their own shoulders breathing rarified anal air! (Can we say "Democrat"?)

Absolutely, Ken. This statement is tossed in the mix as the opinion of the reporter, not the General. As indicated in the attached article, the Iraqi army was ill-equipped prior to the war. The article also gives a decent argument for disbanding the Saddam Army.

Making matters worse, many of the Iraqis who could make this flawed process function were lost when the country's army was disbanded in May 2003 by the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/17/opinion/17senor.html?...rtner=rssnyt&emc=rss

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Originally posted by big_daddySPS:
They had no supply system, no NCO's had responsiblie for anything, no engineers, etc... even before the invasion. So why are people surprise by this.

So what you guys are saying is that you don't feel that the Iraqies can pull off the logistics to keep thier army supplied if we let them run it.

Is there a bottle neck or just not enough trained people to supervise each area of the chain.

I would think they would tap some of the people that are trained and worked the Katrina disaster. We had many retired Military personnel in place there for the next big disaster. Active duty personnel helped out and were trained in logistics.

Many were already trained in logistics by the military.

Or are we training the Iraqies and they are not stepping up to do the job.

I read the articals and I just wonder what other logistic people think.