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At my residence, at an older adult retirement community, our celebration on July 4th consists of a reading of the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights. This is followed by a general discussion of the United States and its adherence to its principles.

We get a large and engaged group turn-out.

I consider the reading and discussion better than all the fireworks. The Declaration was and is the real fireworks of the Fourth of July.
 
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The Declaration contains an anomaly. That is, it declares all men equal, and was written by a man who held slaves.

It took the worst war in our history to resolve this contradiction.

John Brown, who said the documents he knew best were the DoI and the Bible, went a long way toward ending the anomaly.
 
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Most important document ever written!
 
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The Declaration contains an anomaly. That is, it declares all men equal, and was written by a man who held slaves.
Not an anomaly at all ... though it might be if written today. In those days, slaves didn't qualify as men. Nor did women for that matter.

You need to keep in mind that the writers of the Declaration of Independence even believed that a marriage was between ... a man and a woman. How dumb do you get.
 
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The Declaration contains an anomaly. That is, it declares all men equal, and was written by a man who held slaves.
Not an anomaly at all ... though it might be if written today. In those days, slaves didn't qualify as men. Nor did women for that matter.



I've been praying for an opportunity to catch you in a malapropism...

And I thought I'd have to wait twenty years! Thank you 2009!

"In those days, slaves didn't qualify as men. Nor did women for that matter."

So since when have woman "qualified" as men? Big Grin

Dave
 
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The Declaration contains an anomaly. That is, it declares all men equal, and was written by a man who held slaves.
Not an anomaly at all ... though it might be if written today. In those days, slaves didn't qualify as men. Nor did women for that matter.



I've been praying for an opportunity to catch you in a malapropism...

And I thought I'd have to wait twenty years! Thank you 2009!

"In those days, slaves didn't qualify as men. Nor did women for that matter."

So since when have woman "qualified" as men? Big Grin

Dave
Since the advent of strap-ons ...

Big Grin

Happy 2009 to you ... and, I hope, prosperous!
 
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The Declaration contains an anomaly. That is, it declares all men equal, and was written by a man who held slaves.
It took the worst war in our history to resolve this contradiction.
John Brown, who said the documents he knew best were the DoI and the Bible, went a long way toward ending the anomaly.


Yes, John Brown and over 600,000 others. So much of the original work of the Founders was wonderfully conceived and implemented, but it was not perfect, mainly because of the grudging acceptance of slavery written into the Constitution. Even then, a number of the Founders knew and predicted that the scourge of slavery would have to be reconciled, perhaps by blood, as it was.
 
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So since when have woman "qualified" as men? Big Grin

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The Declaration contains an anomaly. That is, it declares all men equal, and was written by a man who held slaves.
Not an anomaly at all ... though it might be if written today. In those days, slaves didn't qualify as men. Nor did women for that matter.



I've been praying for an opportunity to catch you in a malapropism...

And I thought I'd have to wait twenty years! Thank you 2009!

"In those days, slaves didn't qualify as men. Nor did women for that matter."

So since when have woman "qualified" as men? Big Grin

Dave


If you use the terminology of the Bible, as did the "founding fathers"...
We are the "race of man", to include, both "male and female" of the species...
So, in that sense, we are all "men"...
OOOOPS!...
LOL Respectfully, SUNLINER81
 
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The Declaration contains an anomaly. That is, it declares all men equal, and was written by a man who held slaves.

It took the worst war in our history to resolve this contradiction.


The main reason for the War for Southern Independence was not slavery. Slavery was already on it's way out as time and humanity progressed. The main focus was freedom from the tyrany of the Federal Goverment. Guess they were not so dumb afterall. They certainly saw what was coming.

"today's Americans don't have yesteryear's spirit of liberty and constitutional respect, and political statesmanship is in short supply." - Walter Williams
 
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The Declaration contains an anomaly. That is, it declares all men equal, and was written by a man who held slaves.

It took the worst war in our history to resolve this contradiction.


The main reason for the War for Southern Independence was not slavery. Slavery was already on it's way out as time and humanity progressed. The main focus was freedom from the tyrany of the Federal Goverment. Guess they were not so dumb afterall. They certainly saw what was coming.

"today's Americans don't have yesteryear's spirit of liberty and constitutional respect, and political statesmanship is in short supply." - Walter Williams


Actually, it was about slavery AND economics, particularly on the part of the British, who depended upon "cheap" American cotton, derived from slave labor, as the only slaves that they had left, were those that had been in "bond", before they outlawed slavery in Britain, thirty years before...
Respectfully, SUNLINER81
 
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